- From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
- Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 13:33:05 -0400
- To: public-lod@w3.org
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On 6/20/13 12:54 PM, Giovanni Tummarello wrote: > My 2c is .. i agree with kingsley diagram , linked data should be > possible without RDF (no matter serialization) :) > however this is different from previous definitions > > i think its a step forward.. but it is different from previously. Do > we want to call it Linked Data 2.0? under this definition also > schema.org <http://schema.org> marked up pages would be linked data .. > and i agree plenty with this . We can reconcile my Venn back to: http://www.nic.funet.fi/index/FUNET/history/internet/w3c/Image1.gif . That diagram (original World Wide Web proposal) is an entity relationship graph. Every connection type is denoted albeit using literals due to the fact that URIs where a work-in-progress at that point or too distorting to insert into the high level proposal. "describes", "unifies", "wrote", "includes" are literal denotations of different types of relations :-) Kingsley > > Gio > > > On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Kingsley Idehen > <kidehen@openlinksw.com <mailto:kidehen@openlinksw.com>> wrote: > > On 6/20/13 11:45 AM, Luca Matteis wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Melvin Carvalho >> <melvincarvalho@gmail.com <mailto:melvincarvalho@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> # Restate/reflect ideas that in other posts that are >> troubling/puzzling and ask for confirmation or clarification. >> >> >> I am simply confused with the idea brought forward by Kingsley >> that RDF is *not* part of the definition of Linked Data. The >> evidence shows the contrary: the top sites that define Linked >> Data, such as Wikipedia, Linkeddata.org and Tim-BL's meme >> specifically mention RDF, for example: >> >> "It builds upon standard Web technologies such as HTTP, RDF and >> URIs" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linked_data >> "connecting pieces of data, information, and knowledge on the >> Semantic Web using URIs and RDF." - http://linkeddata.org/ >> >> This is *the only thing* that I'm discussing here. Nothing else. >> The current *definition* of Linked Data. > > Here's what I am saying, again: > > 1. You can create and publish web-like structured data without any > knowledge of RDF . > > 2. You can create and publish web-like data that's enhanced with > human- and machine-comprehensible entity relationship semantics > when you add RDF to the mix. > > Venn diagram based Illustration of my point: http://bit.ly/16EVFVG . > > If you want your Linked Data to be interpretable by machine, then > you can achieve that goal via RDF based Linked Data and > applications equipped with RDF processing capability. > > RDF entity relationship semantics are *explicit* whereas > run-of-the-mill entity relationship model based entity > relationship semantics are *implicit*. > > RDF is the W3C's recommended framework for increasing the semantic > fidelity of relations that constitute the World Wide Web. > > It isn't really that complicated. > > RDF can be talked about usefully without inadvertently creating an > eternally distracting Reality Distortion Field, laden with > indefensible ambiguity. > > -- > > Regards, > > Kingsley Idehen > Founder & CEO > OpenLink Software > Company Web:http://www.openlinksw.com > Personal Weblog:http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen <http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/%7Ekidehen> > Twitter/Identi.ca handle: @kidehen > Google+ Profile:https://plus.google.com/112399767740508618350/about > LinkedIn Profile:http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen > > > > > -- Regards, Kingsley Idehen Founder & CEO OpenLink Software Company Web: http://www.openlinksw.com Personal Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen Twitter/Identi.ca handle: @kidehen Google+ Profile: https://plus.google.com/112399767740508618350/about LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen
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