- From: C. M. Sperberg-McQueen <cmsmcq@blackmesatech.com>
- Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2023 12:52:49 -0700
- To: public-ixml@w3.org
ixml meeting 28 November 2023
When: Tuesday 28 November 2023 15:00 UTC for 1 hour
https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=ixml+online+meeting&iso=20231031T1500
Where: https://meet.google.com/dfz-rwpj-opq
Minute taker: JL (or he being absent NTW)
IRC: the meetings will be minuted on IRC at [1]. Details of W3C IRC
use are at [2] and [3], hints for using RRSAgent at [4] and [5].
[1] irc://irc.w3.org:6667/%23ixml
[2] https://www.w3.org/wiki/InternetRelayChat
[3] https://www.w3.org/wiki/IRC
[4] https://www.w3.org/2002/03/RRSAgent
[5] https://w3c.github.io/scribe2/scribedoc.html
Previous minutes:
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2023Oct/0010.html
https://www.w3.org/2023/10/17-ixml-minutes
(No meetings on 31 October or 14 November.)
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Topic: Review of agenda
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0 Identify minute-taker
1 Review of action items
2 Status reports
3 Review, discussion, resolution of issues
4 Other topics
5 Next meeting (and next scribe)
6 Any other business
Details below.
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Topic: Previous Actions
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ACTION 2023-01-10-b: Michael to take another pass on the EBNF to BNF
document
ACTION 2023-01-10-f: Norm and Michael to do a bit of revision to
improve the draft documentation of the XML
vocabulary (see #137) for further discussion.
ACTION 2023-09-05-f: Michael to update (some of) the test drivers
See https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2023Nov/0010.html
which claims this is discharged by
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/pull/212
ACTION 2023-10-03-a: Norm to create tests for renaming
DONE 23 October 2023
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/pull/207
ACTION 2023-10-03-b: Steven to make pull request for grammar,
requiring space after prolog
ACTION 2023-10-03-c: Norm close issue 197 without changes
DONE 4 October 2023.
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/197
ACTION 2023-10-03-d: Michael draft a FAQ, to include discussion of
Unicode non-characters and non-Unicode characters
Done. See https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2023Oct/0029.html
and https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2023Nov/0013.html
and https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/pull/219
ACTION 2023-10-17-a: SP to document the modified IRI/URI grammar to
make clearer why you might want it / need it, in
preference to the literal transcription of the
grammars in the RFCs.
ACTION 2023-10-17-b: SP to draft proposed addition to section 3.3
saying explicitly that nonterminals are
case-sensitive.
ACTION 2023-10-17-c: NTW to do some experiments with dynamic CSS, to
see if we can turn section numbers on and off.
ACTION 2023-10-17-d: SP to make each heading hyperlink to the section
it heads (on the model of the XSLT spec).
ACTION 2023-10-17-e: SP to develop tests to detect version of Unicode
supported.
ACTION 2023-10-17-f: MSM to find the tests which currently provide
different results based on version of Unicode
supported, and send SP a pointer to them.
Done. See
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2023Nov/0014.html
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/pull/212
ACTION 2023-10-17-g: NTW to develop proposal for #192 with a menu of
choices
Done. See thread beginning at
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2023Oct/0021.html
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Topic: Status reports
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Topic: Status of implementations
Topic: Status of testing and test suites
See also test-suite related issues below.
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Topic: publication plans
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Web Conference reviewers have inquired about our publication plans:
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2023Mar/0000.html
Rules: https://www.w3.org/community/about/faq/#how-do-we-publish-a-report
If no discussion is needed, this item may be skipped.
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Topic: Review and resolution of bug reports and technical issues
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NB The list below shows only issues open as of the time this agenda
was last revised. It does not show any issues raised only in email:
if you wish an issue to be discussed, please open an issue in Github.
For all open issues, see https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/
* Issues against the 1.0 spec
None.
* Issues relating to test suite
Topic: Pull request #207 Test of Renaming facility
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/pull/207
Any reason not to merge this pull request?
Topic: Pull request #211 A linear a-star test catalog and data
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/pull/211
Any reason not to merge this pull request? Is it really 3001
files?
Topic: Pull request #212 Tweak Unicode tests, add version detector
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/pull/212
Are we ready to merge this pull request?
Topic: Pull request #218 Small test catalog update
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/pull/218
Allows multiple grammar-result elements in a test-set-results
element (needed for processors with support for multiple
Unicode versions or other reasons for multiple results).
Any reason not to merge this pull request?
Do we need to allow multiple grammar-test elements in
test-set?
Topic: Pull request #214 Oberon-based performance tests
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/pull/214
Are we ready to merge this pull request?
Topic: Pull request #215 XSLT to make Bash script from catalog
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/pull/215
Are we ready to merge this pull request?
Topic: Pull request #216 ixml grammars for performance testing
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/pull/216
Are we ready to merge this pull request?
Topic: Pull request #217 Performance tests using XPath
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/pull/217
Are we ready to merge this pull request?
* Issues relating to Web site and ancillary documents
Topic: Issue #198 Check that browsable test suite is being updated when tests are added
Topic: Pull request #204 Toggle section numbers
Any reason not to merge this pull request?
Topic: Issue #139 Sample grammars for IRIs and URIs
See proposal at
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2023Mar/0004.html
Revised proposal from Steven:
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2023Jun/0009.html
Topic: Description of EBNF to BNF translation
See also:
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2023Jan/0002.html
https://github.com/ndw/ixml/blob/ebnf-to-bnf/misc/ebnf-to-bnf.md
Awaiting progress on action 2023-01-10-b (Michael).
Topic: Issue #137 Document the XML tag set of ixml grammars
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2023Jan/0003.html
https://ixml.nwalsh.com/xmlguide/
Awaiting progress on action 2023-01-10-f (Norm and Michael).
* v.Next issues
Topic: Issue #210 Extraneous material in section on Serialization
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/210
Topic: Issue #203 Spec should say nonterminals are case-sensitive
Awaiting proposal (action 2023-10-17-b).
Topic: Issue #202 Spec should say Unicode version is implementation-defined
Awaiting proposal (but not action was assigned?).
Topic: Issue #199 Require whitespace between prolog and first rule?
Awaiting pull request?
Topic: Issue #192 Normalizing line endings in ixml inputs
See thread beginning at
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2023Oct/0021.html
Topic: Issue #75 Combining grammars (for v.Next)
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2023Jan/0002.html
We need to discuss the use-cases document proposed by Norm.
MSM proposes the functionality of RNG as a minimum.
Topic: Issue #168 Dynamic naming / name from the input data
See discussion document from John:
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2023May/0005.html
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Topic: Other topics
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Topic: Plans for further work
Topic: Website
https://invisiblexml.org
https://github.com/invisibleXML/
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Topic: Next meeting
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Normal date and time for ixml meetings is every other Tuesday at 3 pm
British Time, 4 pm Central European Time (14:00 UTC during summer
time, 15:00 UTC during winter time). For the foreseeable future, we
meet in weeks whose numbers in the ISO week numbering are even.
On the usual schedule, the next meeting would be Tuesday 12 December,
at 15:00 UTC for one hour.
For the record: the current state of the minute-taking rota is:
John Lumley 2022-06-27
Norm Tovey-Walsh 2023-09-05
Steven Pemberton 2023-10-03
M Sperberg-McQueen 2023-10-17
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Topic: Any other business
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C. M. Sperberg-McQueen
Black Mesa Technologies LLC
http://blackmesatech.com
Received on Monday, 27 November 2023 19:53:38 UTC