minutes from ixml Community Group call 17 October 2023

Minutes are at

    https://www.w3.org/2023/10/17-ixml-minutes.html

New actions:


ACTION 2023-10-17-a: SP to document the modified IRI/URI grammar to
                     make clearer why you might want it / need it, in
                     preference to the literal transcription of the
                     grammars in the RFCs.

ACTION 2023-10-17-b: SP to draft proposed addition to section 3.3
                     saying explicitly that nonterminals are
                     case-sensitive.

ACTION 2023-10-17-c: NTW to do some experiments with dynamic CSS, to
                     see if we can turn section numbers on and off.

ACTION 2023-10-17-d: SP to make each heading hyperlink to the section
                     it heads (on the model of the XSLT spec).

ACTION 2023-10-17-e: SP to develop tests to detect version of Unicode
                     supported.

ACTION 2023-10-17-f: MSM to find the tests which currently provide
                     different results based on version of Unicode
                     supported, and send SP a pointer to them.

ACTION 2023-10-17-g: NTW to develop proposal for #192 with a menu of
                     choices



A text version (dumped by lynx) follows for those who find it
convenient.

--Michael


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   Present
          Bethan, Michael, Norm, Steven

   Regrets
          John

   Chair
          Steven

   Scribe
          cmsmcq

Contents

    1. [5]Previous actions
    2. [6]status of implementations
    3. [7]Publication plans
    4. [8]Revision to agenda
    5. [9]Pull request #201
    6. [10]Issue #198 Check that browsable test suite is being
       updated when tests are added
    7. [11]Issue #139 Sample grammars for IRIs and URIs
    8. [12]Description of EBNF to BNF translation
    9. [13]Issue #137 Document the XML tag set of ixml
       grammars
   10. [14]Issue #13
   11. [15]Issue #203 Spec should say explicitly that
       nonterminals are case-sensitive
   12. [16]Issue #202 Version of Unicode supported should be
       implementation-defined
   13. [17]Issue #199 Require whitespace between prolog and
       first rule?
   14. [18]Issue #192 Normalizing line endings in ixml inputs
   15. [19]Next meeting
   16. [20]Summary of action items

Meeting minutes

  Previous actions

   MSM has done the easy ones.

   NTW has done 10-03c but 10-03a continues.

   SP has come up to the point of clicking the button to
   submit the pull request, but has not yet overcome
   resistance from github.

  status of implementations

   NTW reports that his implementation now once again passes
   all tests.

   SP: nothing to report.

  Publication plans

   NTW still kicking the can down the road.

  Revision to agenda

   NTW asks to add issue #201 to the agenda.

  Pull request #201

   NTW: the draft which we made the current working draft next
   week had SP's change markup.

   Pull request #201 eliminates that markup, to avoid
   confusing readers.

   Permission to merge granted. Merged.

  Issue #198 Check that browsable test suite is being updated when
  tests are added

   Continues.

  Issue #139 Sample grammars for IRIs and URIs

   MSM requests more documentation of the design choices.

   SP recalls that we agreed to provide the original grammar
   and also a grammar that shows the structure.

   We agreed to provide both, so people could use either,
   whichever they need.

   ACTION: SP to document the grammar to make clearer why you
   might want it / need it.

   (This won't happen before Declarative Amsterdam and SP's
   Denmark trip, so mid-November.)

  Description of EBNF to BNF translation

   Waiting on MSM.

  Issue #137 Document the XML tag set of ixml grammars

   Waiting on MSM and NTW.

  Issue #13

   This has been merged and the issue should be closed.

   NTW closes #13.

  Issue #203 Spec should say explicitly that nonterminals are
  case-sensitive

   ACTION: SP to draft proposed addition to 3.3 saying that
   nonterminals are case-sensitive.

   Do we want to add section numbers? Discussion, feelings on
   both sides.

   ACTION: NTW to do some experiments with dynamic CSS.

   ACTION: SP to make each heading hyperlink to the section it
   heads.

  Issue #202 Version of Unicode supported should be
  implementation-defined

   Discussion. Do we want to specify a floor version?

   SP points out that the spec has a normative reference to
   Unicode 13, with no 'or later' mentioned anywhere.

   NTW: it's going to be hard to support any version of
   Unicode other than what our libraries support.

   MSM: are all of our libraries in fact up to version 13?

   SP: we could write a test to detect that.

   ACTION: SP to develop tests to detect version of Unicode
   supported.

   ACTION: MSM to find the tests which currently provide
   different results based on version of Unicode supported,
   and send SP a pointer to them.

  Issue #199 Require whitespace between prolog and first rule?

   Awaiting solution of SP's battle with Github.

  Issue #192 Normalizing line endings in ixml inputs

   ACTION: NTW to develop proposal for #192 with a menu of
   choices

  Next meeting

   SP will be available on 31 October and 14 November, so we
   don't need to cancel those.

   Next meeting is 31 October.

Summary of action items

    1. [21]SP to document the grammar to make clearer why you
       might want it / need it.
    2. [22]SP to draft proposed addition to 3.3 saying that
       nonterminals are case-sensitive.
    3. [23]NTW to do some experiments with dynamic CSS.
    4. [24]SP to make each heading hyperlink to the section it
       heads.
    5. [25]SP to develop tests to detect version of Unicode
       supported.
    6. [26]MSM to find the tests which currently provide
       different results based on version of Unicode
       supported, and send SP a pointer to them.
    7. [27]NTW to develop proposal for #192 with a menu of
       choices


    Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by
    [28]scribe.perl version 221 (Fri Jul 21 14:01:30 2023
    UTC).

Diagnostics

   Maybe present: MSM, NTW, SP

   All speakers: MSM, NTW, SP

   Active on IRC: cmsmcq_, Steven

References

   1. https://www.w3.org/
   2. https://www.w3.org/2023/10/03-ixml-minutes
   3. https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2023Oct/0002.html
   4. https://www.w3.org/2023/10/17-ixml-irc
   5. https://www.w3.org/2023/10/17-ixml-minutes.html#t01
   6. https://www.w3.org/2023/10/17-ixml-minutes.html#t02
   7. https://www.w3.org/2023/10/17-ixml-minutes.html#t03
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  10. https://www.w3.org/2023/10/17-ixml-minutes.html#t06
  11. https://www.w3.org/2023/10/17-ixml-minutes.html#t07
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  20. https://www.w3.org/2023/10/17-ixml-minutes.html#ActionSummary
  21. https://www.w3.org/2023/10/17-ixml-minutes.html#a01
  22. https://www.w3.org/2023/10/17-ixml-minutes.html#a02
  23. https://www.w3.org/2023/10/17-ixml-minutes.html#a03
  24. https://www.w3.org/2023/10/17-ixml-minutes.html#a04
  25. https://www.w3.org/2023/10/17-ixml-minutes.html#a05
  26. https://www.w3.org/2023/10/17-ixml-minutes.html#a06
  27. https://www.w3.org/2023/10/17-ixml-minutes.html#a07
  28. https://w3c.github.io/scribe2/scribedoc.html



-- 
C. M. Sperberg-McQueen
Black Mesa Technologies LLC
http://blackmesatech.com

Received on Tuesday, 17 October 2023 19:13:54 UTC