RE: Mongolian Variation Sequences Missing from Unicode 8.00 Code Chart

Hi Michel,

Thanks for the many hours you put into these charts.
You have taken us a long ways to getting Unicode readers a more clear view of the spectrum of glyphs needed in the Mongolian script family.

Greg


-----Original Message-----
From: Michel Suignard [mailto:michel@suignard.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 1:51 PM
To: Greg Eck <greck@postone.net>; Richard Wordingham <richard.wordingham@ntlworld.com>; public-i18n-mongolian@w3.org
Subject: RE: Mongolian Variation Sequences Missing from Unicode 8.00 Code Chart

All,
The standardizedvariants document is being deprecated by the UTC in favor of the code charts that now contain the same information with improved glyphs. Please use the Mongolian 8.0 code charts as current reference. I had been working on the past with Greg to improve the status of the descriptions of these variants. Another improvement of these code charts is to soon show all contextual forms (isolated, initial, medial, and final) to facilitate the reading of the varaiants which are themselves contextual.

I should be able to provide soon a full example of the variants and all contextual forms.

Michel
(as one of the chart editors)

-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Eck [mailto:greck@postone.net] 
Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2015 8:04 PM
To: Richard Wordingham; public-i18n-mongolian@w3.org
Subject: RE: Mongolian Variation Sequences Missing from Unicode 8.00 Code Chart

Hi Richard,

Let me comment on this briefly.
The 6 glyphs as mentioned below are certainly missing images. Interesting that it is the same set under discussion now. Thanks for pointing this out.

As to the other 5 mis-matches listed at the end of your note, I would suggest we wait a bit on them.
One of the main objectives of our discussion is to verify the standardizedvariants document as well as suggest revision in the hopes that our various font implementations will use the FVS set in a more standardized fashion.
U+182C, U+182D, and U+1838 as mentioned are areas that we have on the docket for discussion.
If we could address the information as it comes up in sequence, I think it would help us keep focus.

Thanks,
Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Wordingham [mailto:richard.wordingham@ntlworld.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 5:35 AM
To: public-i18n-mongolian@w3.org
Subject: Mongolian Variation Sequences Missing from Unicode 8.00 Code Chart

I have now reported the following error to Unicode:

The glyphs for the following Mongolian variation sequences are missing from the Mongolian code chart for Version 8.00:

1820 180C (medial)
1828 180D (medial)
182C 180C (medial)
182C 180D (medial)
1835 180B (medial)
1836 180C (medial)

I intend to report the errors attached below tomorrow (Monday) at some time after 17:00 UTC.  Please advise if I should not.

Richard.

The glyph for 182C 180B (isolated) has a pair of dots in Standardised Variants but not in the code chart.  I believe the dots are semantically significant.  I suspect there is a problem with the overpainting order within the PDF. (I viewed the chart with Firefox on Ubuntu 12.04.)

The glyphs for the following are strikingly different:
182D 180B (final)
182D 180C (medial)
1838 180B (final)
186F 180B (initial)

Received on Thursday, 6 August 2015 17:18:38 UTC