- From: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 19:07:23 +1000
- To: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
- Cc: Pēteris Ņikiforovs <peteris.nikiforovs@tilde.lv>, public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org, Mārcis Pinnis <marcis.pinnis@tilde.lv>, "public-html@w3.org" <public-html@w3.org>
I meant to say: ignore, i.e. "within-text=nested" for <script> and the text within <script> doesn't even get classified as translatable text, since it's code and not text to be translated. Silvia. On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org> wrote: > Am 15.05.13 09:26, schrieb Silvia Pfeiffer: > > Wouldn't you want to Igor script for your purposes anyway no matter where it > appears? > > > I agree, that is to say on the ITS 2.0 side: default "within-text=yes" is > for > http://www.w3.org/TR/html51/dom.html#phrasing-content-1 > plus "script" independent of position. MLW-LT folks, what do you think? > > - Felix > > > Silvia. > > On 15 May 2013 16:54, "Felix Sasaki" <fsasaki@w3.org> wrote: >> >> Just to give some background for Silvia / the HTML WG about this topic. >> >> In ITS 2.0 "Elements Within Text" information >> >> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#elements-within-text >> helps to identify nesting properties of text sequences. This is needed >> e.g. for triggering segmentation during extraction of text, as a preparation >> for translation / localization: in >> <p>This is a <span>test</span></p> >> a translator doesn't want to see the content of e.g. "span" separately >> extracted from a "p". So "span" is "within-text=yes", and "p" is >> "within-text=no". >> >> In ITS 2.0 we want to align with HTML5 as much as possible with regards to >> defaults for "within text". For the defaults we refer to >> http://www.w3.org/TR/html51/dom.html#phrasing-content-1 >> saying in ITS 2.0 "what is listed here is equal to ITS within-text=yes". >> In this way, content authors don't have to set a lot of "within-text" >> information explicitly. >> >> Refering to >> phrasing content >> works in 99% (e.g. for "span", "em", ...) - but "script" raised the >> question that created this thread: "script" is part of phrasing content in >> "body", but "script" can also appear in the head. With what this thread >> looks like currently, we would assume that "script" would only be seen as by >> default "within-text=yes" when it appears in the body. (Note that one can >> always override these defaults with explicit metadata, btw.). >> >> Best, >> >> Felix >> >> Am 15.05.13 08:00, schrieb Mārcis Pinnis: >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> So we can assume that the HTML5 Defaults for ITS 2.0 Elements Within Text >>> do not affect the head element, right? >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Mārcis ;o) >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Silvia Pfeiffer [mailto:silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 5:51 AM >>> To: Felix Sasaki >>> Cc: public-html@w3.org; public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org >>> Subject: Re: Question on "phrasing content" definition >>> >>> Hi Felix, >>> >>> the definition of <head> is here: >>> http://www.w3.org/TR/html51/document-metadata.html#the-head-element >>> >>> It says for its content model: >>> If the document is an iframe srcdoc document or if title information is >>> available from a higher-level protocol: Zero or more elements of metadata >>> content. >>> Otherwise: One or more elements of metadata content, of which exactly one >>> is a title element. >>> >>> So, the content model is metadata content, which is specified here: >>> http://www.w3.org/TR/html51/dom.html#metadata-content >>> >>> So, no, <head> elements don't hve phrasing content. >>> >>> HTH. >>> Silvia. >>> >>> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> Not sure if anybody from the HTML WG saw this or whether a different >>>> forum for this question would be better ... anyway, any advice would >>>> be highly appreciated. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Felix >>>> >>>> Am 08.05.13 15:33, schrieb Felix Sasaki: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> a question on >>>>> >>>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/html51/dom.html#phrasing-content-1 >>>>> >>>>> does this definition also encompass the content of the "head" >>>>> element, e.g. "script" inside "head"? That is, is content of <head> >>>>> part of intra-paragraph? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Felix >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> >
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