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Re: HTML 5.1 Use Cases

From: Thomas A. Fine <fine@head.cfa.harvard.edu>
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 13:55:54 -0500
Message-ID: <50CF6ABA.3050607@head.cfa.harvard.edu>
To: public-html@w3.org
On 12/17/12 6:58 AM, Robin Berjon wrote:
> I agree with this sentiment, but "digital textbooks" is more of a usage
> area than a use case. From the point of view of producing new solutions,
> it would be more useful to hear stories of the kind "I need to do this
> in my ebook because foo, but it doesn't work because bar." Such input is
> extremely valuable.

So just for example:

I need to format my text with extra space between sentences because:
   * I want to demonstrate the historic norm for published works from 
roughly 1650 to 1950
   * There is some evidence to support that such spacing is helpful for 
new readers, people with certain learning disabilities, and more 
generally people who are speed-reading or scanning.
   * Or just because I find it aesthetically pleasing

But it doesn't work because:
   * The common practice of using &nbsp; fails because this is not 
collapsed and can break the justified text either on the right, or on 
the left depending on where the non-breaking space was used (see default 
blogger post editor behavior, which preserves extra spaces using &nbsp; 
but disrupts the left margin in left-justified text).
   * Using other space entities may avoid that issue but the use of any 
space entity still fails to give fine-grained CSS control of the formatting.
   * Using spans for each sentence with CSS and the box model also 
breaks justification, because the extra space added in a box model also 
fails to collapse at line breaks.
   * Using spans with CSS and the word-spacing parameter solves the 
justification problems but it inverts the expected CSS hierarcy for 
controlling layout, setting the word-spacing to the sentence size as a 
more global value and overriding it locally for every single contained 
element to set the word-spacing back to what is actually desired for 
word spacing.

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