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Re: Bug 7034

From: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 17:30:34 +0100
To: Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi>
Cc: HTMLwg WG <public-html@w3.org>
Message-ID: <20100327173034954988.e83351da@xn--mlform-iua.no>
Henri Sivonen, Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:31:45 +0200:
> On Mar 24, 2010, at 04:08, Maciej Stachowiak wrote:
>> To give a specific example, I would like to consistently avoid 
>> presentational markup on the webkit.org, but I do not want to add an 
>> xmlns declaration to every page.
> I sometimes create Web pages in OpenOffice.org Writer/Web but want to 
> make the pages conform to my site CSS. I find that to spot all the 
> cruft it's not sufficient to look for markup that HTML5 bans but that 
> looking for style="..." and <span> is also necessary.

When it comes to exporting HTML/XHTML from word processors, then a 
<span style="font-weight:bold"> or a <span class="bold"> is appears 
much less semantic to an author, overlooking the code, than e.g. a 
simple <b> would do. The "export something from a word processor" use 
case is one were a degree of presentational mark-up seems much more 
useful than e.g. only the elements of HTML4 strict.

> We already experimented with banning style="..." and that didn't go 
> down well.
leif halvard sili
Received on Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:31:09 UTC

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