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Re: AuthConfReq: Presentational Markup

From: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 18:02:43 +0100
To: Karl Dubost <karl@la-grange.net>
Cc: Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>, HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>
Message-ID: <20100327180243482258.0a642daf@xn--mlform-iua.no>
Karl Dubost, Sat, 27 Mar 2010 08:32:45 -0400:
> 
> Le 27 mars 2010 à 08:17, Sam Ruby a écrit :
>>  <b style="background:transparent;color:red">1984</b>
>>  <strike>the</strike>
> 
> but you could do <del>removed</del>

Karl: I hope you eventually will confirm that you stand by that claim 
... ;-) Because, if one can use <del> like that, then why can't one 
just as well use <h1> whenever one wants to have text in a big size 
font? The following should work quite well, in a CSS supporting user 
agent:

	<div>The <h1 style=display:inline >big</h1> text.</div>

The typographic feature "line-through" can either be "just" that. Or it 
can be a signal which tells a story about the edition history that a 
particular text has gone through. Or it can be something "in between". 
For instance, if I write a blog post where I from the start want to 
indicate a word that I partly don't mean, then I play on the "this text 
has been deleted" perception. Should I then use <del>, in a situation 
were I have no plans of removing the line-through?

I don't perceive it as <del>'s task to help authors presenting irony. 
For <del> one can also remove the default line-through styling and 
instead e.g. use a red color. Whereas it make much less sense to remove 
the line-through for <strike>.

Also, if I had been using <del> instead of <strike>, and if the text 
later was marked-up with a second <del> *for its intended purpose* 
(namely, as editing history signal), then how would I able to discern 
between the <del> with stylistic semantics and the other <del> with the 
intended semantics? 
-- 
leif halvard silli
Received on Saturday, 27 March 2010 17:03:18 UTC

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