- From: Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
- Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 23:48:21 -0400
- To: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>
- CC: John Foliot <jfoliot@stanford.edu>, 'Ian Hickson' <ian@hixie.ch>, 'Cynthia Shelly' <cyns@exchange.microsoft.com>, public-html@w3.org
Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > > Just for the record: > > On Sep 14, 2009, at 6:33 PM, John Foliot wrote: > >> We already know that *you* think that it is never appropriate to use >> @summary, and >> your opinion is duly and publicly noted. However, the 'consensus' >> position is that it has both a use and appropriateness that goes beyond >> your opinion. > > We haven't assessed a Working Group consensus on the appropriate uses > for summary. It's clear to me from observation that opinions vary (and > it's not a case of Ian vs. everyone else). > > >> >>> It is difficult to evaluate proposals without understanding what >>> problems they are trying to solve. >> >> <problem>THE PROBLEM IS THAT MANY PEOPLE DISAGREE WITH THE TEXT YOU HAVE >> INSERTED INTO THE SPECIFICATION.</problem> >> >> It is text that has been authored by one person (you), as opposed to a >> draft text, which Cynthia has floated, that has been authored by and >> commented upon by many people, and more closely reflects the consensus >> position of the communities affected. > > It's not clear at this time whether Cynthia's text reflects consensus of > the HTML Working Group. It does seem clear to me that a number of people > like Cynthia's text better than Ian's, and vice versa. > > > Overall comment: John, please recall that you personally signed off on > the text that is currently in the Editor's Draft. You are free to change > your mind, and express a preference for different text. But I suggest > that you dial down the outrage over text that you at one time personally > reviewed and approved. How about a little less all-caps and "one person" > rhetoric? (I do appreciate your work to more clearly express the issues > and file bugs.) Point of order: the only thing John agreed to was to withdraw his draft "at this time", with the expectation that the discussions "are on-going and will continue" and that this action "*did not* close Issue 32, and it is important for all to realize that point." http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Aug/0182.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Aug/0286.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Aug/0362.html > Regards, > Maciej - Sam Ruby
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