- From: Schnabel, Stefan <stefan.schnabel@sap.com>
- Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:37:06 +0200
- To: Steven Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>, Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
- CC: HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>, W3C WAI-XTECH <wai-xtech@w3.org>
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I'd like to see the conformance checker algorithm code that can decide if <a> has been erroneously used instead of <button> in a form- like element grouping ... Sometimes you can just appeal to obey standards .. and if they were "violated", ARIA is a mean for correction afterwards. Great for maintenance of older code. But for new development, Ian is probably right. - Stefan From: wai-xtech-request@w3.org [mailto:wai-xtech-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Steven Faulkner Sent: Mittwoch, 21. Oktober 2009 12:13 To: Ian Hickson Cc: HTMLWG WG; W3C WAI-XTECH Subject: Re: ARIA roles added to the a element should be conforming in HTML5. Hi ian, > <snipping> the example stuff as the discussion is not about what > developers _should_ do, its about what developers _can_ and _do_. >Conformance is about what developers _should_ do, however. I agree, but developers are allowed to add behaviours and styles that turn a link into a button and they won't get nagged when they check the conformance of the code, but adding a role will result in a conformance error. Easy way to get rid of it is to remove the ARIA role, what results in a conforming, but less accessible ineterface control. seems like the goal conformance is wrong if this occurs. If the point of conformance is about what devlopers _should_ do then developers need to be told their code is non conforming regardless of the presence of ARIA. regards Stevef 2009/10/21 Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch<mailto:ian@hixie.ch>> On Wed, 21 Oct 2009, Steven Faulkner wrote: > > <snipping> the example stuff as the discussion is not about what > developers _should_ do, its about what developers _can_ and _do_. Conformance is about what developers _should_ do, however. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E )\._.,--....,'``. fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A /, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.' -- with regards Steve Faulkner Technical Director - TPG Europe Director - Web Accessibility Tools Consortium www.paciellogroup.com<http://www.paciellogroup.com> | www.wat-c.org<http://www.wat-c.org> Web Accessibility Toolbar - http://www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html
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