- From: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
- Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:45:47 +0200
- To: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
- CC: "Martin J. Dürst" <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>, Andrew Cunningham <andrewc@vicnet.net.au>, Larry Masinter <masinter@adobe.com>, "Phillips, Addison" <addison@amazon.com>, Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>, "public-html@w3.org" <public-html@w3.org>, "public-i18n-core@w3.org" <public-i18n-core@w3.org>
Ian Hickson On 09-10-12 07.57: > On Mon, 12 Oct 2009, "Martin J. Dürst" wrote: >> My understanding, from what I learned from Ian, is that HTML5 tries to >> make it easier to write a browser, without doing reverse-engineering. >> But the problem with the current "western demographic" wording is that >> browser implementers will have to re-engineer that term. As Leif >> explains in quite some detail, the definition is indeed quite circular: >> iso-8859-1 was designed for the iron curtain period Western Europe (with >> some limitations), and windows-1252 follows that that. But the term >> "Western" has many meanings, and is used much more differenciated these >> days, and languages completely unrelated to Western Europe (Kurdish, >> Swahili) use iso-8859-1 just because they fit in (and quite some more >> languages for windows-1252). > > I agree that we shouldn't mention Europe (and we don't), but I'm not sure > what term would be better than "Western". It seems to be a pretty good fit > based on Wikipedia's map: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_world > > Certainly not perfect, but I'm not sure what would be better without going > into extreme detail and listing specific countries. Had you actually read that article, then you would have noticed: that Greece + [entire!] Cyprus are included in the Western world; that Poland is included (hint: Copernicus); that Israel is included; that the city were the Immanuel Kant was born is /not/ included. that the article has warnings about not meeting Wikipedia quality standards and for not having reliable sources. I smell that you - once again - are out after cutting linguistic corners, such as in the debate about URLs, URIs, resources and representation etc. Quite dilettantish, actually. -- leif halvard silli
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