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Re: [Bug 7075] New: The embed element should be deprecated

From: Joe D Williams <joedwil@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 11:56:15 -0700
Message-ID: <8B70E7D005074FB7BA21181F5B4F8B64@joe1446a4150a8>
To: "Joe D Williams" <joedwil@earthlink.net>, <bugzilla@wiggum.w3.org>, <public-html@w3.org>
Here is a start at some editing for [Bug 7075]

1. move existing 4.8.4 to 12.1.4

http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#embedded-content-0

4.8 Embedded content
...
delete
4.8.4 The embed element

renumber remaining 4.8 and update related references.

http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#obsolete-features

12 Obsolete features
...
insert edited content created from
original 4.8.4 as 12.1.4 The embed element

update any references

Thank You and Best Regards,
Joe



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe D Williams" <joedwil@earthlink.net>
To: <bugzilla@wiggum.w3.org>; <public-html@w3.org>
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Bug 7075] New: The embed element should be deprecated


> Thanks for this bug report. This <embed> element has served it's 
> purpose as the initial way to get active content into the document. 
> It was needed only during that time when all browsers did not 
> support <object> and is no longer needed or recommended, There are 
> no more browsers or applications around that need <embed>. Plus, as 
> pointed out in the report, <embed> has no usefull accessibility 
> features.
> Best practice for an author that has employed <embed> should instead 
> be to use <object> with appropriate fallback that does not include 
> <embed>.
>
> Thanks Again and Best Regards,
> Joe
> http://www.web3d.org/x3d/wiki/index.php/X3D_and_HTML5
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <bugzilla@wiggum.w3.org>
> To: <public-html@w3.org>
> Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 3:04 AM
> Subject: [Bug 7075] New: The embed element should be deprecated
>
>
>> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7075
>>
>>           Summary: The embed element should be deprecated
>>           Product: HTML WG
>>           Version: unspecified
>>          Platform: PC
>>               URL: http://dev.w3.org/html/spec/#the-embed-element
>>        OS/Version: Windows XP
>>            Status: NEW
>>          Severity: normal
>>          Priority: P2
>>         Component: HTML5 spec bugs
>>        AssignedTo: dave.null@w3.org
>>        ReportedBy: scampa.giovanni@gmail.com
>>         QAContact: public-html-bugzilla@w3.org
>>                CC: ian@hixie.ch, mike@w3.org, public-html@w3.org
>>
>>
>> The embed element has no fallback abilities, and thus is completely 
>> useless
>> for:
>>
>> - users of accessibility technology
>> - users of text browsers or other browsers which don't support 
>> plugins (but
>> still are required to support <embed>)
>> this includes search engines and data mining tools
>> - users with plugins disabled
>> - users with a missing plugin for the required content and no 
>> ability to
>> install one
>>
>> In addition, the embed element has no use that could not be served 
>> by the
>> object element, that in addition has rich fallback and more media 
>> types usable
>> (including still images and nested browsing contexts).
>>
>> Therefore, the embed element, its attributes and its processing 
>> requirements,
>> should be moved to the obsolete section (where currently reside 
>> applet and
>> marquee)
>> Conformance checkers should inform the page author about the object 
>> element (as
>> validator.w3.org always did) and conforming documents must not 
>> include an embed
>> element.
>>
>>
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Received on Friday, 3 July 2009 18:57:02 UTC

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