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Re: summary="" in HTML5 ISSUE-32

From: David Poehlman <poehlman1@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 07:41:03 -0500
Cc: HTMLWG <public-html@w3.org>, W3C WAI Protocols & Formats <w3c-wai-pf@w3.org>
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To: Smylers <Smylers@stripey.com>
more than likely, what it shows is not what it would show if the  
summary had been visible in the first place.

On Feb 27, 2009, at 7:02 AM, Smylers wrote:

Philip Taylor writes:

> I've now created
> http://canvex.lazyilluminati.com/misc/summary-20090226.html

Thank you for putting that work in.  It's really good to have some data
on this.

> it can demonstrate that making summary visible to graphical UAs on all
> tables on all pages would be unacceptable, by giving a lot of examples
> where that would result in text like "Layout Table: wraps all of the
> content on the page" becoming visible and very few examples where it
> would be beneficial.


What about making summary visible only for those tables for which screen
readers make it available?  It's possible that using the same algorithm
that screen readers do for ignoring layout tables would yield something
that's acceptable.

Do screen readers generally agree on which tables to ignore?  Are their
table-ignoring algorithms known?


Jonnie Appleseed
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