- From: Philip TAYLOR (Ret'd) <P.Taylor@Rhul.Ac.Uk>
- Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:16:42 +0000
- To: Boris Zbarsky <bzbarsky@MIT.EDU>
- CC: Philip Taylor <pjt47@cam.ac.uk>, HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>
Boris Zbarsky wrote: > That's a DOM tree, not a parse tree. It's show an HTMLPreElement with a > single textnode child ("B"), and an HTMLCodeElement or whatever you want > to call it, with two kids: the HTMLPreElement and a textnode ("C"). OK, so the indentation is intended to denote closure; this was unclear (to me). >> A closure for an outer element must surely close all inner >> elements > > Doing that blindly would break the web. Consider the simple example of: > > <b>Bold <i>Bold and italic</b> Still italic, not bold</i> Normal font > > Closing the <b> doesn't end the italicising, even though it's the > "outer" element. This behavior is interoperable across all major > browsers, and significant number of sites depend on it. You may be correct (I'm referring to the "significant number of sites" here), but is there any evidence to suggest that an approximately equal number of sites do not assume exactly the converse ? It is certainly not clear /a priori/ that the italicisation should continue, nor that that was the intended behaviour. > >> whether or not the specification requires >> that they be explicitly closed, as a normal part of >> the parser's error recovery procedure. > > The error recovery procedure needs to be more complicated than you seem > to think, if the parser is going to handle real-life web content. From a purely personal perspective, I believe that handling real-life web content that is /wrong/ is at the very tail of the distribution of the criteria that we should be considering. > The latter, clearly (as in, the DOM is significantly different from what > it needs to be to render the site as browsers interoperably render it). I don't know about "clearly" : that may well have been my namesake's intention and meaning, but I for one found the wording sufficiently unclear that I thought that clarification (from the author) could usefully be sought. Philip TAYLOR
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