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RE: Section 1.4.4 proposed text

From: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 01:53:22 +0000 (UTC)
To: Justin James <j_james@mindspring.com>, Chris Wilson <Chris.Wilson@microsoft.com>
Cc: 'HTML WG' <public-html@w3.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0811120127220.1041@hixie.dreamhostps.com>

On Tue, 11 Nov 2008, Justin James wrote:
> My 2 cents: I think that anyone reading this section of the HTML 5 spec 
> (indeed, anyone reading any portion of it) is familiar with the various 
> risks of such technologies.

I don't think that's necessarily the case at all. Certainly, when I first 
read HTML4 I had little clue about these issues.

On Tue, 11 Nov 2008, Chris Wilson wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 11, 2008, Ian Hickson wrote:
> >How are Flash and Silverlight not UI languages?
> I would say both Flash and Silverlight can be USED as UI languages, as 
> can HTML; however, that's not all they are.  Flash is an animation 
> language, for example; Silverlight is an application language (deeper 
> than just UI).

Fair enough. Fixed.

> As Justin James just responded, I think anyone reading this section of 
> the HTML5 spec probably doesn't need to be lectured on the benefit of 
> vendor neutrality, but I'm happy to add a sentence that describes that - 
> e.g., tacking on a sentence at the end that says "HTML5 is intended to 
> be a vendor-neutral language, implemented by a large number of vendors 
> across a broad range of scenarios."

I've rephrased that section to try to address your concerns while keeping 
the key points in the text.

> "Vendor lock-in" is an offensive phrase, and I would prefer that we not 
> try to make the W3C HTML5 specification a political manifesto.

I really don't understand why "vendor lock-in" is offensive; could you 

In any case I've avoided use of that phrase in the new text.

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