- From: Karl Dubost <karl@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 09:54:18 +0900
- To: James Graham <jg307@cam.ac.uk>
- Cc: Mark Birbeck <mark.birbeck@formsPlayer.com>, Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi>, HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>
James Graham (18 oct. 2007 - 07:40) :
> Are there such examples for @cite? I do not recall encountering any
> use at-all let alone any compelling use.
See my mail
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2007Oct/0191
If someone convinces gives a patch to wiki developers and CVSweb
people. You will get implementations. The "cite" attribute on "ins"
and "del" has to be implemented by content management system.
*then* through javascript or browsers, you can use the feature.
The trouble here is that we keep repeating the same mistake.
Designing an HTML specification without involving developers of CMS
and authoring tools, or considering that they are secondary to the
development of HTML.
Cf. Henri Sivonen's message
"Yeah, but by default, it is reasonable to expect HTML 5 requirements
for UAs in general to apply to browsers."
-- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2007Oct/0143
What about making the requirement for authoring tools first. Right
now the requirement is addressing "authors".
http://www.w3.org/html/wg/html5/#cite3
"The cite attribute may be used to specify a URI
that explains the change. When that document is
long, for instance the minutes of a meeting,
authors are encouraged to include a fragment
identifier pointing to the specific part of that
document that discusses the change."
Proposal
"The cite attribute may be used to specify a URI
that explains the change. Authoring tools and CMS
(ex. wiki, weblogs, cvslog) can link to a
document explaining the changes. When that
document is long, for instance the minutes of a
meeting, authors or authoring tools are
encouraged to include a fragment identifier
pointing to the specific part of that document
that discusses the change."
Example:
In the wikipedia article about Venus, differences could be shown with
ins and del and gives a pointer to the message "(added NASA image)".
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Venus&diff=293914&oldid=293913
--
Karl Dubost - http://www.w3.org/People/karl/
W3C Conformance Manager, QA Activity Lead
QA Weblog - http://www.w3.org/QA/
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