- From: James Graham <jg307@cam.ac.uk>
- Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 19:49:43 +0100
- To: "Dr. Olaf Hoffmann" <Dr.O.Hoffmann@gmx.de>
- Cc: public-html@w3.org
Dr. Olaf Hoffmann wrote: >>> The result we can see in the 'real web life' - >>> a lot of meaningless tag soup around, >>> disoriented authors lost between silence >>> and semantically meaningless markup... >> Are there use case where software that consumes markup would benefit >> from poem-specific semantics? > > Authors and readers will have benefit from this. > Without markup on quality poems in HTML 5 - > then it is maybe better still to use LATEX, it has a > verse element ;o) I don't understand how readers would benefit from a poem element. Is there some special UA behavior you imagine? For example, the <aside> element might be read out-of-order in a speech browser or hidden unless specifically opened on a small-screen browser. What are the corresponding possibilities for a <poem> element that would allow similar improvements for the user experience? >>> (a lot of readers of poetry are >>> robots from search engine for example ;o) >> How would they be helped by poem-specific semantics? > > If someone is looking for poems in results from a seach engine > the search engine can be more selective just looking at the > semantics. There are search engines for images or maybe > video/audio, why not for poems? > Anyway even for robots maybe the days will come they > learn to distinguish between different contents and this will > be pretty simpler with semantic markup as with div-class-tag-soup. Unfortunately depending on the use of explicit semantics in this way doesn't seem to work so well in practice. In this case I would imagine that the biggest problem would be search engines only picking up the small fraction of total poetry marked as <poem>, thus making such a facility too unhelpful to be worth deploying, although one can imagine problems with e.g. spam, for example, spammers swamping the relatively small amount of poetry content with much more rubbish. -- "Mixed up signals Bullet train People snuffed out in the brutal rain" --Conner Oberst
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