- From: T.V Raman <raman@google.com>
- Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 11:11:47 -0700
- To: w3c-lists@mikeschinkel.com
- Cc: hsivonen@iki.fi, raman@google.com, public-html@w3.org
Well said. Another good example of invisible metadata that later became "visible" and is a big success on the web is the use of the link element to point at RSS and ATOM feeds in HTML pages; later, these became "visible" when browsers started showing an XML icon on pages. Mike Schinkel writes: > Henri Sivonen wrote: > > On Mar 29, 2007, at 19:06, T.V Raman wrote: > >> A) The metadata needs to be "visible" to the intended target. > >> B0- The metadata needs to be "invisible" to those it's not > >> intended for. > > The design principle aims to combine those cases when possible and > > reasonable. When metadata is rendered to the user under the usual > > browsing conditions, errors in the metadata are more likely to be > > noticed and fixed. Metadata that is not rendered under the usual > > conditions often gets copied as part of a template and is wrong. > This is an opinion that does a lot of damage to potential growth on the > web, I think. It is used as a weapon against introducing mechanisms for > metadata that may not be visible on the HTML page at the time of > introduction, but that can become "visible" via other means. Again, > I'll point to T.oolicio.us as an example project whose goal is to > empower to use of significant semantic metadata, much of it being > "invisible" at first. I expect there will also be other tools that will > leverage metadata, not just T.oolicio.us. > > If mechanisms for adding metadata are empowered to be squashed by (IMO) > short-sighted principles, then many of the potential future benefits > will be minimized. > > -- > -Mike Schinkel > http://www.mikeschinkel.com/blogs/ > http://www.welldesignedurls.org > http://atlanta-web.org - http://t.oolicio.us > "It never ceases to amaze how many people will proactively debate away attempts to improve the web..." > -- Best Regards, --raman Title: Research Scientist Email: raman@google.com WWW: http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/ Google: tv+raman GTalk: raman@google.com, tv.raman.tv@gmail.com PGP: http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/raman-almaden.asc
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