- From: Steve Faulkner <sfaulkner@paciellogroup.com>
- Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 09:26:51 +0100
- To: "Maciej Stachowiak" <mjs@apple.com>
- Cc: HTMLWG <public-html@w3.org>, wai-xtech@w3.org
- Message-ID: <55687cf80708300126p605f2dd5ic717931816ecb83d@mail.gmail.com>
Maciej wrote: >It looks like the flickr page you tested is a search, which doesn't include the title or caption. What about a page like this (I found it from the >example you used), where the titles are included, and are duplicated by the alt text: >http://www.flickr.com/photos/11994078@N04/ If we look at the page you provided, we still have the same issue, a choice between a duplicate text title being announced for each image when the page is read using case 1 - user uses The JAWS read all command: For a text, & alt pair the screen reader would announce with the title repeated as the alt "Sgt.Pepper and Robinone Link Graphic Sgt.Pepper and Robinone " with no alt attribute "Sgt.Pepper and Robinone Link Graphic slash one billion two hundred thirty-seven million eight hundred seventy-four thousand two hundred ninety-three underline eight dfcdzerocbfe underline t.jpg" which is preferable? if a null alt text is used (alt="") the result is the same as for no alt attribute, because the image is the sole content of the link. case 2 - If the user employed the common navigation method of tabbing through the page: when the user tabbed to a photo link with alt text: "Link Graphic Sgt.Pepper and Robinone" when the user tabbed to a photo link without an alt attribute: "Link Graphic slash one billion two hundred thirty-seven million eight hundred seventy-four thousand two hundred ninety-three underline eight dfcdzerocbfe underline t.jpg" which is preferable? >Based on what you said about JAWS, it sounds like alt="" might give the best results in that version of JAWS. Could you clarify? are you referring to the example page you provided or the page i used? >might give the best results in that version of JAWS The results i described are good for JAWS versions 6.2+, they may be the same for earlier version i didn't check. Window eyes behaviour is similar (as noted in the article) >http://www.flickr.com/photos/11994078@N04/ Thanks for providing another example page I will test and update the article. On 29/08/2007, Maciej Stachowiak < mjs@apple.com> wrote: > > On Aug 29, 2007, at 11:48 AM, Steven Faulkner wrote: > > If the developers of flickr.com or Photobucket were to implement the > recommendations regarding the omission of the alt attribute within the > current HTML 5 draft what are the potential effects upon the accessibility > of the sites for users of assistive technology such as screen readers? > > Investigating the proposed alt attribute recommendations in HTML 5 - > http://www.paciellogroup.com/resources/articles/altinhtml5.html > > > > It looks like the flickr page you tested is a search, which doesn't > include the title or caption. What about a page like this (I found it from > the example you used), where the titles are included, and are duplicated by > the alt text: > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/11994078@N04/ > > > Based on what you said about JAWS, it sounds like alt="" might give the > best results in that version of JAWS. > > > Regards, > Maciej > > > > -- > with regards > > Steve Faulkner > Technical Director - TPG Europe > Director - Web Accessibility Tools Consortium > > www.paciellogroup.com | www.wat-c.org > Web Accessibility Toolbar - > http://www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html > >
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