- From: Marghanita da Cruz <marghanita@ramin.com.au>
- Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:30:27 +1000
- To: public-html@w3.org
Sander Tekelenburg wrote: > At 04:22 +0200 UTC, on 2007-08-23, Leif Halvard Silli wrote: > >> 2007-08-22 16:57:30 +0200 Lachlan Hunt: >> >>> 2. Support Existing Content >>> This principle is essential. [...] >>> It really doesn't matter whether a particular feature was defined in HTML4, >>> XHTML1 or not defined at all [...] If there is significant existing content >>> on the web that relies on particular user agent behaviour, then that >>> behaviour should be specified [...] >> Take note, Laura and others: According to this interpretation, many of >> those you that have sofar voted strongly for this principle, are probably >> actually against it! > > FWIW, I don't know if it's useful to be for or against a Design Principle > based upon someone's interpretation of it. I realise it's confusing, because > many have 'explained' Desing Principles by giving some interpretation, but > that's only that interpretation. It doesn't mean the Design Principle cannot > be interpreted differently. The questionaire asks us for our opinion of the > Design Principles, not for our opinion of some interpretation of the Design > Principles. > > I for one do agree with this Design Principle. I interpret it as saying that > we should do our best to not change HTML such that current websites stop > working in HTML5 UAs (which would result in users sticking with old UAs > instead of upgrade), or that it would become so difficult for authors to > upgrade their sites to HTML5 that they won't bother -- which would result in > them not making use of the good things HTML5 has to offer and we want them to > use. > > But again, that's just my interpretation :) > > It seems to be a general problem with the Design Principles: they can be > interpreted in many ways, and they can all be overruled by each other. I > wonder how useful they can really be, but I see no problem with such Design > Principles[*]. While filling out the questionaire, I realised that I mostly > have problems with the ones that *do* limit room for interpretation. Ain't > that something.... > It appears to me, that there are too many principles and they could be collapsed into 4. My suggestion is to modify the document to include a new section or expand the Introduction to cover Background/History of the design principles & Audience for the specifiction (including priority of constituencies) Principles 1 Support Existing Content (encompasses degrade gracefully) 2 Well Defined Behaviour (encompasses media independence, avoid complexity, handle errors) 3 Evolution not Revolution (encompass Do not Reinvent the Wheel, Pave the Cowpaths, Solve Real Problems) 4 Separation of Concerns (encompasses support for world languages, media independence and universal access) New Section providing examples of Examples of Application of Principles Marghanita -- Marghanita da Cruz http://www.ramin.com.au Phone: (+61)0414 869202
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