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Re: missing principle

From: Daniel Glazman <daniel.glazman@disruptive-innovations.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 11:33:51 +0200
Message-ID: <4631C37F.4090301@disruptive-innovations.com>
To: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>
Cc: "public-html@w3.org" <public-html@w3.org>

Maciej Stachowiak wrote:

> Apple has many non-browser uses of HTML, including a mail client. So I 
> agree with the sentiment and I'd be glad to add such a thing. Do you 
> have a suggested phrasing?

I'll work on it.

> Personally, though, I'd like to hear what new presentational elements 
> are needed. Do you have a proposed list?

No, I don't need new elements. I just wanted to say the existing minimal
set, deprecated or not in the HTML4 dtd, is good to keep.
b, i, u. pre is ugly but so simple and widely used it shouldn't be
touched. sup and sub.
I'm not far from thinking the align attribute is a good thing.
semanticless elements div and span are immensely important.

On another hand, big and small are bad, because handling nested
big or small elements is painful in an editor.

> Personally, I think <font> restricted to use by WYSYWIG editors (note, 
> <font> doesn't have to be just a font setting, it is for any purely 
> presentational application of additional style) is probably sufficient 
> for most needs, but I could be missing something.

font is cool but font is really painful and harmful. Setting font sizes
through font seems to me a danger for interoperability.

Received on Friday, 27 April 2007 09:34:10 UTC

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