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Re: Versioning and html[5]

From: Joe D'Andrea <jdandrea@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 15:36:53 -0400
Message-Id: <16A8A901-2532-43D2-B03F-DBA148B870A5@gmail.com>
To: public-html@w3.org

Kornel Lesinski writes:

 > Many authors don't have slightest idea that there's something  
wrong with
 > their code. This can be solved - make standard IE distribution  
warn about
 > deprecated features and problems exposed by invalid code. [ ... ]

Hear hear! If errors can be flagged, so can warnings.

 > When a potentially important bug is planned to be axed in a future  
 > of IE, you can display more prominent warning in an earlier  
version. Then
 > nobody will get surprised when next version comes out and probably  
 > websites will be fixed by then.


Surprises can be mitigated. I say frequent, pro-active education  
(within the user agent, online and elsewhere) works wonders.

Meanwhile, in response to Boris Zbarsky who wrote:

 > Chris, my point was that things are not black and white here. It's  
 > the case that any change you make would break a large number of  
 > For example, if current IE behavior given a certain input is to  
 > then it seems likely that you can change that aspect of IE behavior
 > without breaking sites.

Chris Wilson replied:

 > No one expects crashes.


 > On the other hand, a bunch of people did
 > expect that we didn't implement child selectors in CSS. A bunch
 > of people did expect that we didn't understand how overflow is
 > supposed to work.

I never _expected_ either of those. Rather, I came to begrudgingly  
_accept_ these and other anomalies as a necessary evil of user agent  
co-existence, and only once it became clear there were no IE updates  
in sight. That was a _very_ hard pill to swallow, let me tell you.

In fact ... it's interesting to note that the pill in question  
largely (dare I say completely?) concerned CSS rendering issues, not  

Joe D'Andrea
Received on Saturday, 14 April 2007 21:06:45 UTC

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