- From: Sander Tekelenburg <st@isoc.nl>
- Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 02:22:52 +0200
- To: whatwg@lists.whatwg.org, public-html@w3.org
At 09:54 +0200 UTC, on 2007-04-02, Anne van Kesteren wrote: > On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 09:59:50 +0200, Sander Tekelenburg <st@isoc.nl> wrote: [...] >> Surely we're not trying to ensure that a Web page >> is presented the same in every browsing environment? What would be the >> use of that? > > That's what people expect from us (browser vendors). Which people? And just because they expect it from you, does that mean you (browser vendors), let alone 'all of us', should give them that? > So yes, that's what we're trying to ensure. Leaving aside for a moment whether it would be a good idea at all, I don't see how UA authors *can* ensure this. For example, I don't see how a site can look the same on a 21" desktop system, and a 3" portable one *and still be usable*. Add to that the possibility of a User Style Sheet, which means authors *cannot* be ensured that something will be presented this way or that. If in spite of that reality the spec say that x must be presented y, then we'd be telling Web authors they can rely on something they in reality cannot rely on. In practice, this can only result in yet more sites that are only usable to users willing to hand control over to the site's author -- even more sites that require a windows size of x, font-size of y, etc. The more specific the HTML spec says how x must be presented, the more trouble users will have configuring their UA to present content the way that is comfortable to *them*. Is HTML5 to accomodate authors, or users? [...] > Not all authors will use a 'CSS zapper' (whatever it is). If that's a question, I linked to what it is in my first message in this thread: <http://webrepair.org/02strategy/02certification/01requirements.php#req26> > They will still > expect the same results across user agents. Why should HTML5 fulfill unreasonable expectations from Web authors? -- Sander Tekelenburg The Web Repair Initiative: <http://webrepair.org/>
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