- From: Adrian Bateman <adrianba@microsoft.com>
- Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 17:24:21 +0000
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Minutes: http://www.w3.org/2011/03/03-html-wg-minutes.html - DRAFT - HTML Weekly Teleconference 03 Mar 2011 Agenda Attendees Present Michael_Cooper, adrianba, krisk, [Microsoft], paulc, Sam, mjs, MikeSmith, eliot, dsinger, Cynthia_Shelly, Oliver Regrets Chair Sam Ruby Scribe Adrian Bateman Contents Topics 1.ACTION items due by Thursday, March 3 2.New Issues This Week 3.Items Closed Last Week 4.Items Closing This Week 5.Items Closing Next Week 6.New Calls this week 7.New Surveys this week 8.Decisions this week 9.Task Force Reports - Testing Task Force 10.Task Force Reports - Accessibility Task Force 11.Other Business 12.Scribe for next meeting 13.Adjournment Summary of Action Items -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ACTION items due by Thursday, March 3 rubys: there are none New Issues This Week rubys: again, there are none Items Closed Last Week ISSUE-157? <trackbot> ISSUE-157 -- A comprehensive, semantic image map specification -- closed <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/157 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-157: A comprehensive, semantic image map specification - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org) ISSUE-158? <trackbot> ISSUE-158 -- HTML4's content-model for <object> should continue -- closed <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/158 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-158: HTML4s content-model for should continue - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org) ISSUE-160? <trackbot> ISSUE-160 -- Remove restriction on command element as part of a menu -- closed <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/160 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-160: Remove restriction on command element as part of a menu - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org) rubys: all three were closed without prejudice due to lack of proposals ISSUE-161? <trackbot> ISSUE-161 -- Create document defining mappings from html elements to platform accessibility apis -- open <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/161 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-161: Create document defining mappings from html elements to platform accessibility apis - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org) ISSUE-144? <trackbot> ISSUE-144 -- <u> should be conforming -- open <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/144 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-144: should be conforming - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org) rubys: we have a proposal for these and the calls for alternative proposals went out for both ISSUE-124? <trackbot> ISSUE-124 -- nofollow/noreferrer not allowed on <link> -- open <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/124 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-124: nofollow/noreferrer not allowed on - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org) ISSUE-130? <trackbot> ISSUE-130 -- allow tables to be used for layout purposes -- open <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/130 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-130: allow tables to be used for layout purposes - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org) rubys: two straw polls closed last week on these issues Items Closing This Week rubys: five items closing today ISSUE-9? <trackbot> ISSUE-9 -- how accessibility works for <video> is unclear -- open <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/9 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-9: how accessibility works for is unclear - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org) rubys: call for consensus - some discussion the mailing list but no objections raised yet ... next, some where we have calls for counter proposals ISSUE-120? <trackbot> ISSUE-120 -- Use of prefixes is too complicated for a Web technology -- open <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/120 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-120: Use of prefixes is too complicated for a Web technology - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org) rubys: do have a counter proposal for this ISSUE-139? <trackbot> ISSUE-139 -- HTML5 spec mentions Microdata in Acknowledgements -- open <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/139 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-139: HTML5 spec mentions Microdata in Acknowledgements - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org) rubys: again, we have a proposal and a counter proposal ISSUE-140? <trackbot> ISSUE-140 -- clarify the applicability of the term "conforming document" in cases where "applicable specifications" had been used to augment or change the base HTML5 specification -- open <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/140 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-140: clarify the applicability of the term "conforming document" in cases where "applicable specifications" had been used to augment or change the base HTML5 specification - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org) rubys: again, we have a proposal and a counter proposal ISSUE-142? <trackbot> ISSUE-142 -- No alternative text description for video key frame (poster) -- open <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/142 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-142: No alternative text description for video key frame (poster) - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org) rubys: again, we've got both ... the only one that may have any action this week is ISSUE-9 if there are no objections raised Items Closing Next Week ISSUE-135? <trackbot> ISSUE-135 -- put back direct link to the W3C version of the canvas 2d context spec -- open <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/135 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-135: put back direct link to the W3C version of the canvas 2d context spec - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org) rubys: we have until the 10th to get alternate proposals ISSUE-146? <trackbot> ISSUE-146 -- <video> should allow muted as a content attribute -- open <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/146 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-146: should allow muted as a content attribute - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org) ISSUE-147? <trackbot> ISSUE-147 -- playbackrate: undefined behavior when the user agent can't play back at the requested rate -- open <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/147 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-147: playbackrate: undefined behavior when the user agent cant play back at the requested rate - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org) ISSUE-148? <trackbot> ISSUE-148 -- Algorithm for detecting the charset="" parameter -- open <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/148 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-148: Algorithm for detecting the charset="" parameter - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org) rubys: none of these have counter proposals yet - we have another week on these New Calls this week ISSUE-119? <trackbot> ISSUE-119 -- Certain relationships take on a special meaning when repeated; other solutions may be cleaner -- open <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/119 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-119: Certain relationships take on a special meaning when repeated; other solutions may be cleaner - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org) rubys: call for consensus due mar 7 ... see no objections yet New Surveys this week ISSUE-126? <trackbot> ISSUE-126 -- Requirement to break RFC 2616 compliance with respect to backslashes not needed for legacy content -- open <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/126 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-126: Requirement to break RFC 2616 compliance with respect to backslashes not needed for legacy content - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org) rubys: survey is to be complete by mar 10 ... by request we extended ISSUE-125 survey to have the same date ISSUE-125? <trackbot> ISSUE-125 -- Requirement to break RFC 2616 compliance with respect to single quotes not needed for legacy content -- open <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/125 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-125: Requirement to break RFC 2616 compliance with respect to single quotes not needed for legacy content - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org) Decisions this week ISSUE-118? <trackbot> ISSUE-118 -- Specification breaks semantics of existing link relations "index" and "first" -- closed <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/118 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-118: Specification breaks semantics of existing link relations "index" and "first" - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org) rubys: decision was posted and the changes have been made ISSUE-129? <trackbot> ISSUE-129 -- replace or modify the ARIA section of the HTML5 spec -- open <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/129 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-129: replace or modify the ARIA section of the HTML5 spec - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org) rubys: decision has been posted, ian asked for some clarifications and steven kindly provided those clarifications Task Force Reports - Testing Task Force krisk: we met as planned on 22nd ... meet again this tuesday ... group has consensus to update some of the google audio/video tests that they had submitted but hadn't reported back on ... update is just to add a third parameter to addEventListener ... simon from opera gave some good feedback on those tests, i gave feedback as well ... set a date of mar 22 to have those all approved pending the needed fixes ... other than that, plh and other folks at w3c updated the wiki - thanks for that ... that's it about now ... lots of good participation in feb and mar off to a good start as well rubys: questions or comments? Task Force Reports - Accessibility Task Force <MikeSmith> http://www.w3.org/2011/03/03-html-a11y-minutes.html mike: janina is away so i'll give the summary this week <pimpbot> Title: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference -- 03 Mar 2011 (at www.w3.org) mike: not much to report but i'll put in the minutes ... we had paul on the call to answer questions about reopening of issue-30 issue-30? <trackbot> ISSUE-30 -- Should HTML 5 include a longdesc attribute for images -- open <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/30 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-30: Should HTML 5 include a longdesc attribute for images - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org) scribe: paul clarified some queries - it is reopened but comments will be processed in may after LC ... sam already mentioned issue-129 ... as far as TF is concerned there is nothing we need to do on either of these before LC ... the thing with some urgency is canvas ... but this is blocked on getting some time from implementers to give feedback ... rich is aware that we won't be able to get much done before mar 22 ... so some of these dicusssions will need to take place in LC ... we're planning a f2f after CSUN in san diego ... focus is to get the media discussions moved along ... silvia and eric and others will be there ... nothing else that the WG is waiting for that the TF hasn't yet reported on rubys: any questions for mike? Other Business ISSUE-30? <trackbot> ISSUE-30 -- Should HTML 5 include a longdesc attribute for images -- open <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/30 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-30: Should HTML 5 include a longdesc attribute for images - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org) rubys: as mentioned this was reopened and formal objection has been removed <mark> Mark just called in rubys: bug 11984 - chairs asked for revert which was done promptly <pimpbot> 11http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11984 contributor, P3, REOPENED, 13Simplify <video> for implementors and authors by ignoring the Content-Type HTTP header rubys: still discussing ... we also provided an extension for issue 145 ... the new date is now mar 22 ISSUE-145? <trackbot> ISSUE-145 -- use of "codecs" parameter -- open <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/145 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-145: use of "codecs" parameter - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org) rubys: is there any other business people would like to bring up? ... none Scribe for next meeting paul: i believe i'm chairing next week rubys: if we don't have any volunteers i will volunteer to scribe Adjournment rubys: thanks everybody <paulc> Thank you, Sam. Summary of Action Items [End of minutes] -----Original Message----- From: public-html-wg-announce-request@w3.org [mailto:public-html-wg-announce-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Sam Ruby Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 9:40 AM To: HTML WG Announce Subject: {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2011-03-03: Issues, Decisions, Task Force Reports, and Other Business The HTML Working Group will have its usual weekly teleconference on 2011-03-03 for up to 60 minutes from 17:00Z to 18:00Z. http://timeanddate.com/s/1z9f Tokyo 02:00+1, Amsterdam/Oslo 18:00, London/Dublin 17:00, New Jersey/York 12 noon, Kansas City 11:00, Seattle/San Francisco 09:00. Chair of the meeting: Sam Ruby Scribe: Adrian Bateman (See the end of this email for dial-in and IRC info.) == Agenda == 1. ACTION items due by Thursday, March 3 None 2. New Issues This Week: None 3. Items Closed Last Week a) ISSUE-157: image-map-spec, Change Proposals closed Feb 23 Issue closed without prejudice: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Feb/0398.html b) ISSUE-158: object-content-model, Change Proposals closed Feb 23 Issue closed without prejudice: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Feb/0400.html c) ISSUE-160: menuless-commands, Change Proposals closed Feb 23 Issue closed without prejudice: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Feb/0401.html d) ISSUE-161: accessibility-api-mapping, Change Proposals closed Feb 23 Change proposal received, call for Alternate or Counter-Proposals: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Feb/0411.html e) ISSUE-144: conforming-u, Call for Revisions closed Feb 24 Change proposal revised, call for Alternate or Counter-Proposals: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Feb/0421.html f) ISSUE-124: rel-limits, Straw Poll for Objections closed Feb 28 http://w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10412 g) ISSUE-130: table-layout, Straw Poll for Objections closed Feb 28 http://w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10963 4. Items Closing This Week a) ISSUE-9: video-accessibility, Responses to Consensus call due Mar 3 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Feb/0410.html b) ISSUE-120: rdfa-prefixes, Alternate or Counter Proposals due Mar 3 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Feb/0086.html c) ISSUE-139: ack-microdata, Alternate or Counter Proposals due Mar 3 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Feb/0087.html d) ISSUE-140: conformance-terminology, Alternate or Counter Proposals due Mar 3 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Feb/0088.html e) ISSUE-142: poster-alt, Alternate or Counter Proposals due Mar 3 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Feb/0090.html 5. Items Closing Next Week a) ISSUE-135: link-canvas-spec, Alternate or Counter Proposals due Mar 10 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Feb/0195.html b) ISSUE-146: video-content-muted, Alternate or Counter Proposals due Mar 10 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Feb/0196.html c) ISSUE-147: playbackrate-undefined, Alternate or Counter Proposals due Mar 10 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Feb/0197.html d) ISSUE-148: charset-detect, Alternate or Counter Proposals due Mar 10 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Feb/0198.html 6. New Calls this week a) ISSUE-119: table-border, Call for Consensus due Mar 7th http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Feb/0487.html 7. New Surveys this week b) ISSUE-126: charset-vs-backslashes, Straw Poll for Objections due Mar 10 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/issue-126-objection-poll/ c) ISSUE-125: charset-vs-quotes, Straw Poll for Objections due Mar 10 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/issue-125-objection-poll/ Note: this is a reopening/extension of a previous poll on this issue: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Mar/0046.html 8. Decisions this week a) ISSUE-118: broken-link-types http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Feb/att-0481/issue-118-decision.html http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=5923&to=5924 b) ISSUE-129: aria-mapping http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Mar/0005.html 9. Task Force Reports a) Testing Task Force b) Accessibility Task Force 10. Other Business a) ISSUE-30 reopened; Formal Objection withdrawn http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Mar/0037.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2011Mar/0005.html b) Bug 11984 - Simplify <video> for implementors and authors by ignoring the Content-Type - Reverted http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Mar/0002.html http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=5920&to=5921 Extension given to alternate proposals for issue 145: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Feb/0484.html 11. Scribe for next meeting 12. Adjournment == Dial-in and IRC Details == Zakim teleconference bridge +1.617.761.6200, +33.4.26.46.79.03, +44.203.318.0479 code: HTML (4865) Supplementary IRC chat (logged) #html-wg on irc.w3.org port 6665 or port 80
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