- From: Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 07:12:49 -0400
- To: Bernadette Hyland <bhyland@3roundstones.com>,Dave Reynolds <Dave.e.Reynolds@gmail.com>
- CC: W3C public GLD WG WG <public-gld-wg@w3.org>
In general, the glossary is great, but the current text on 5 star is not okay.
I can live with dropping it (for now), or just pointing to Tim's page, but not the current definition which never even mentions RDF. Sorry.
- Sandro
Bernadette Hyland <bhyland@3roundstones.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>Remaining feedback folded in especially in relation to definition of
>"Resource", addition of "Web Resource" and fixing 5 star LOD
>definition. Also updated normative references in doc.
>
>Linked Data Glossary Draft 21-May 2013 [1] is ready for publication
>once run through one last PubRules check. (Last week the WG approved
>to publish as a WG Note.)
>
>NB: Editorial changes are to keep tone consistent with rest of the
>document, however were not intended to alter the proposed meaning. If
>this unintentionally happened, please notify asap. Reference to RFC
>3986 was made elsewhere so I dropped from below proposal so as to not
>sound repetitive.
>
>Again, we're striving for simplicity and for this to be a glossary of
>terms for Web developers, not the anointed per se.
>
>All OK now per your feedback??
>
>-----%<-------
>90. Resource
>
>In an RDF context, a resource can be anything that an RDF graph
>describes. A resource can be addressed by a Unified Resource Identifier
>(URI). See also Resource Description Framework (RDF) 1.1 Concepts and
>Abstract Syntax [RDF11-CONCEPTS]
>
>
>127. Web Resource
>
>A web page addressed by a URL. Examples include: an HTML web page, an
>image offered by a web server, or a dataset accessible by a URL. A Web
>Resource may have different representations. For example, an RDF
>database might be accessed at a single URL using multiple syntaxes,
>such as RDFa, JSON-LD, and Turtle. See also Hypertext Transfer Protocol
>HTTP/1.1 [RFC2616].
>
>
>Cheers,
>Bernadette Hyland
>
>[1] https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/glossary/index.html
>
>
>On May 8, 2013, at 5:48 AM, Dave Reynolds <Dave.e.Reynolds@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>> On 08/05/13 05:39, Bernadette Hyland wrote:
>>> Hi Sandro,
>>> The editors have folded in all comments received in relation to the
>LD
>>> Glossary. Please see latest version. [1]
>>>
>>> For Thursday's telecon, would you create a diff previously approved
>for
>>> publication (April) & the May 7th (current). Also, need a new
>>> Overview.html file run through PubRules. I'm done until we get
>further
>>> feedback. Thanks for your help on this.
>>> ---
>>>
>>> Regarding "Resource", I've simplified to include only one
>definition.
>>> In keeping with my new mantra, "keep it simple", how does this this
>>> sit with you & others?
>>
>> Personally I prefer Sandro's suggestion. I imagine that at least some
>people reading the glossary will be aware of the notion of REST and
>might expect something more like the entry for Web Resource. Having
>both solves that problem.
>>
>> However, it's not something I would argue strongly over.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 89. Resource
>>>
>>> In an RDF context, a resource can be anything that an RDF graph
>>> describes. A resource can be addressed by a Unified Resource
>Identifier
>>> (URI)
>>>
><https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/glossary/index.html#uniform-resource-identifier>.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Keep in mind that this LD Glossary is a starting point for those new
>to
>>> Linked Data. We don't want to scare people, it is the 'welcome
>basket'
>>> not the definitive guide for the working LD expert (which is found
>>> elsewhere on the W3C site).
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Bernadette
>>>
>>> [1] https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/glossary/index.html
>>>
>>> Sandro wrote:
>>>> I've thought about more than most people have thought about food
>>>
>>> PS. Clearly you haven't met my 15 year old son who pretty much only
>>> thinks about food ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 7, 2013, at 7:15 PM, Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org
>>> <mailto:sandro@w3.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> def'n of resource?
>>>> Bernadette and I were working on actually publishing the Glossary,
>>>> which the group approved for publication, and I noticed a little
>problem:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 86. Resource
>>>>
>>>> A resource is anything that can be addressed by a Unified
>Resource
>>>> Identifier (URI)
>>>>
><file:///home/sandro/Repos/gld/glossary/diff.html#uniform-resource-identifiers>.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 93. Resource
>>>>
>>>> A resource is a network data object or service that can be
>>>> identified by an HTTP URI. Resources may be available in
>multiple
>>>> representations (e.g. multiple languages, data formats, size,
>and
>>>> resolutions) or vary in other ways. See details from RFC 2616bis
>>>> for details on Uniform Resource Identifiers. See details from
>RFC
>>>> 2616bis for details on Uniform Resource Identifiers.
>>>>
>>>> The definition of Resource is something I've thought about more
>than
>>>> most people have thought about food. I suggest we call the second
>one
>>>> "Web Resource", and explain, like this:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Resource*
>>>>
>>>> (Not to be confused with _Web Resource_) An entity. Saying
>that
>>>> something is a resource says nothing at all about it, because by
>>>> the definition of the term, everything is a resource. For
>more
>>>> details see Uniform Resource Identifier (URI): Generic Syntax
>(RFC
>>>> 3986) [1] and Resource Description Framework (RDF) 1.1 Concepts
>[2].
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Web Resource*
>>>>
>>>> Anything which is addressed by a URL; roughly speaking, a web
>>>> page. Examples include: an HTML web page, an image offered by a
>>>> web server, or a dataset available for access at some URL. A
>>>> resource may change its state over time and have different
>>>> representations of the same state. For example, a webcam might
>>>> offer both JPEG and PNG versions of its current image, at the
>same
>>>> URL, using content negotiation, or an RDF database might be
>>>> accessed at one URL using multiple syntaxes, such as RDFa,
>>>> JSON-LD, and Turtle. For more details see Hypertext Transfer
>>>> Protocol -- HTTP/1.1 [3]
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes Web Resources are just called "Resources". In some
>>>> contexts, this can cause unnecessary confusion. The difference
>is
>>>> related to the distinction between URLs (which identify Web
>>>> Resources) and URIs (which identify Resources in general), as
>>>> discussed in http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3305#page-3
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986
>>>> [2]
>http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf11-concepts/#resources-and-statements
>>>> [3]
>>>>
>http://www.w3.org/Protocols/HTTP/1.1/rfc2616bis/draft-lafon-rfc2616bis-04.html#intro.terminology
>>>>
>>>> I hope that works for folks. Bernadette made some other changes,
>so
>>>> we're going to ask the WG for approval again before publishing.
>I'll
>>>> be sending along a pointer to the new version and the diffs once I
>>>> have it passing pubrules.
>>>>
>>>> -- Sandro
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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