Regrets so far: None so far
Start Time: 10:45am Eastern US (15:45Z, except 14:45Z during US DST)
Duration: 90 minutes

Previous minutes:
IRC supplement:

Minute takers rotation list, when not done by Leigh:
Kenneth/MarkS, MarkB/Paul, Raman, Susan, Nick, Keith, 
Ulrich/Sebastian, Rafael/Rogelio, Charlie, Steven, Erik

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REPORTS (10 minutes)

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The Forms Newsletter

XForms 1.1
- Editor to incorporate Appendix E Input Mode changes from Steven
- Submission headers fix?
- Test suite
- Implementation report progress?

XForms Basic 1.0, 1.1

* Rich Web Application Backplane

ACTION ITEMS (15 minutes)
Action Item List:

* News item from Steven?
* John: Coordinating with HTML WG chairs about Forms Joint Task Force
* Keith: Known outstanding tests done?
* Leigh and Kenneth: 1.0 Basic impl report? 
* Nick: Need progress on Action module and Bind module
* Uli: Do you think you might be able to start the submission module?
* Leigh: Any progress on submission header fix?
- Keith: New W3C test suite license

BUG FIX ISSUES (0 minutes)
Why are Events attributes on the model element?

Are xforms-insert and xforms-delete notification events?

* Submission header problem
- Duplicate headers same keyname more than one value. 
- How are multiple values handled?
- Serializer receives multiple values and decides what to do
- Put a pointer to http
- must order be preserved?
- intra convertible to single header with comma separated
- What if values themselves are comma separated?
- Beyond order, do we need a combiner for append versus replace
- Accept type?


The meaning of message

The repeat-* attributes

Forms Task Force
- Latest:
- Architecture alignment strawman:

Fix our shortname issue

Marketing of XForms

* Who says we don't need an actions module if we move to XML Events 2?!?
our actions, event() properties, deferred update behavior, specialized 

* destid ?!?  How about receiver?

* Resolutions without action items are useless
xforms-idref-exception, case(), Changes to MIP return results

* Streamlined syntax module

Currency data values, etc.

Review of XPath Functions Module
- Review new organization before splitting
- Issues in

Review of Bind Module

Draft Instance Data Module

Review of Actions module
- Reference to XHTML Modularization, and explanation of meaning of 
- XML Events, if/while
- Examples are very dependent on things not defined

We should automate boolean-from-string() on the boolean MIPs (relevant, 
readonly, constraint)

Validity notification on initial or hidden data
- Isn't it about time we add an xforms-control-initialize event?
- Seems we need it for modularization to work right
- Defer to face to face meeting

The xforms-hide feature suggestion

Common event info not exposed in event() function
Discussed  Aug. 20, 2008.  Deferred to 1.2 or later.

The xforms-link-exception
Discussed Aug. 20, 2008. Need to dispatch xforms-link-error to 
instance rather than link-exception to model. For legacy, if the
link-error bubbles up to model, it could throw link-exception, but
then the author can prevent the exception by cancelling the error
Note: xforms-link-error is not currently cancellable

xforms-submit-done response-body and host language submission result 
Discussed 21 May 2008; perhaps only for replace="none"
Concern was about efficiency.  Could add "want-response-body" default 
false in
xforms-submit, then if turned true the response-body would be non-empty in 
xforms-submit-done.  Host language could then push response-body content 
a new window.

XForms 2.0
Refactor dependencies to detect automatic rebuild conditions and reduce 
circular dependencies

Make progress on Model improvements (optional model, nested model, 
external model)


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