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Re: Moving conneg-by-ap to CR

From: Annette Greiner <amgreiner@lbl.gov>
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 11:03:00 -0700
To: public-dxwg-wg@w3.org
Message-ID: <3c348d52-04f4-7e5a-2da6-a093296bf19e@lbl.gov>
The issue about whether that section is normative needs to be resolved 
for me to support moving to CR. It's particularly troubling to me since 
I did rewrite that section to address that, the changes were accepted, 
and then they were somehow edited back out by subsequent work. I realize 
the editing process can be chaotic with many contributors, so I'm not 
looking to blame anyone for this. My goal had been and remains to 
clarify that there are many ways in which one can use the abstract model 
to code up a content negotiation strategy and the QSA approach offers 
one of them. Since that rewrite, the document now offers two similar 
QSA-based approaches and a statement in section 2.1 that conformance to 
one of them or to header-based conneg is required for conformance to the 
spec. That isn't what we agreed to. My main concern with this is to 
acknowledge that web developers do not all agree that query strings are 
the best way to handle differentiating requests, and I don't think that 
we should be in the position of legislating development styles.

On 9/25/19 10:05 AM, lars.svensson@web.de wrote:
> Dear all,
> Thanks for giving us editors of conneg-by-ap another 24 hours to fix open issues with the document. We have addressed the following:
> 1. The syntax for Accept-Profile now uses angle brackets around the URIs in order to cleanly separate the profile URI from q-values, other parameters or other profile URIs [0,1]. This resolves Rob Sanderson's first objection. A question has been sent to Rob if he is satisfied with the outcome [2] and he has confirmed this [3].
> 2. The three issues that were still in the document have been removed since they were either closed already (#1041) or had been resolved but not closed (#290) or resolved but without any response from the original poster over four weeks (#678). This resolves Rob Sanderson's second objection. A question has been sent to Rob if he is satisfied with the outcome [2] and he has confirmed this [3].
> 3. The document now contains a definition of "functional profile" in the definition section [4] while all other text about functional profiles is now in its own section in ยง7 [5,6]. This resolves #1022 [7].
> What we have not been able to address is the question about order of precedence for conflicting profile negotiation situations (#505)[8]. My understanding is that Annette requires that QSA is made non-normative while Nick and Rob are not willing to step down from a full standard. I have asked Annette if this issue is a blocker for her [8].
> Regarding wide review, Peter had sent out a request for comments on the 2PWD [9]. Following that, we've had responses on the comments list and outside Github comments from at least Kam Hay Fung [10,11,17], Erik Wilde [12], Herbert van der Sompel [13], Andreas Kuckartz [14] and Gregg Kellogg [15, resolved in 16]. Following a request from Nick [18], we also had feedback from CKAN developers [19,20]. This shows involvement of the outside community. I have also added this to the transition request document [21].
> With five hours left, there is little left for us editors to do, except to ask you to cast your votes again.
> The editors of conneg-by-ap
> Nick, Rob and Lars
> [0] https://w3c.github.io/dxwg/conneg-by-ap/#http-getresourcebyprofile
> [1] https://w3c.github.io/dxwg/conneg-by-ap/#eg-http-get
> [2] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dxwg-wg/2019Sep/0914.html
> [3] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dxwg-wg/2019Sep/0915.html
> [4] https://w3c.github.io/dxwg/conneg-by-ap/#definitions and https://raw.githack.com/w3c/dxwg/larsgsvensson-functional-specification/conneg-by-ap/index.html#definitions
> [5] https://w3c.github.io/dxwg/conneg-by-ap/#functional-profiles-definition
> [6] https://w3c.github.io/dxwg/conneg-by-ap/#conformance-profiles
> [7] https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/1022
> [8] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dxwg-wg/2019Sep/att-0913/00-part
> [9] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dxwg-comments/2019May/0002.html
> [10] https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/785
> [11] https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/835
> [12] https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/501#issuecomment-522503214
> [13] https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/501#issuecomment-522523315
> [14] https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/290#issuecomment-466656384
> [15] https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/662
> [16] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dxwg-comments/2019Apr/0001.html
> [17] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dxwg-comments/2018Aug/0002.html
> [18] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dxwg-wg/2019Sep/att-0907/00-part
> [19] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dxwg-wg/2019Sep/att-0908/00-part
> [20] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dxwg-wg/2019Sep/att-0910/00-part
> [21] https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/wiki/Conneg:-Draft-Transition-Request-to-CR
Annette Greiner (she)
NERSC Data and Analytics Services
Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
Received on Wednesday, 25 September 2019 18:11:47 UTC

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