- From: Annette Greiner <amgreiner@lbl.gov>
- Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 12:31:10 -0800
- To: Bernadette Farias Lóscio <bfl@cin.ufpe.br>
- Cc: Phil Archer <phila@w3.org>, Public DWBP WG <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org>
yes, please do. Thanks, -Annette -- Annette Greiner NERSC Data and Analytics Services Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory 510-495-2935 On Jan 22, 2015, at 11:57 AM, Bernadette Farias Lóscio <bfl@cin.ufpe.br> wrote: > Hi Annette, > > I'm gonna update the document to inlcude the new version of the > Intended Outcome, ok? > > Thanks! > Bernadette > > 2015-01-22 16:42 GMT-03:00 Annette Greiner <amgreiner@lbl.gov>: >> I’m fine with removing Excel. Perhaps we should remove the reference to proprietary formats, too. I think it would be acceptable to use a proprietary format in the case where the vast majority of users would prefer it, but that is a pretty unlikely case. Using nonproprietary formats seems to me the general best practice. A format like Excel can readily be converted to something nonproprietary, like CSV. >> >> A couple sentences got smashed together as well. And now that I think of it, I don’t think we should mention vocabularies here. That is covered way too much elsewhere already. In fact, that last sentence “Standard data formats as well as the . . .” is redundant with the “Why”. I think we should just remove it. >> >> The intended outcome was rewritten and should read: >> "Published data on the web must be readable and processable by typical computing systems. Any data consumer who wishes to work with the data and is authorized to do so must be able to do so with computational tools typically available in the relevant domain." >> >> -Annette >> >> -- >> Annette Greiner >> NERSC Data and Analytics Services >> Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory >> 510-495-2935 >> >> On Jan 22, 2015, at 4:05 AM, Phil Archer <phila@w3.org> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I just noticed that the BP "Use machine-readable standardized data formats" included this: >>> >>> "Consider which data formats potential users of the data are most likely to have the necessary tools to parse proprietary or (preferably) non-proprietary data formats, including but not limited to MS Excel, CSV, NetCDF, XML, JSON and RDF. Standard data formats as well as the use of standard data vocabularies will better enable machines to process the data." >>> >>> >>> No no no no no no no >>> >>> Microsoft Excel is a proprietary format that has no place in a W3C standards document. I have removed it. >>> >>> True, MSFT 'gave' the standard to ISO but it's not an open standard in terms of the way it was developed and is effectively a proprietary one. >>> >>> >>> For tracker: ISSUE-67 >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> Phil Archer >>> W3C Data Activity Lead >>> http://www.w3.org/2013/data/ >>> >>> http://philarcher.org >>> +44 (0)7887 767755 >>> @philarcher1 >>> >> >> > > > > -- > Bernadette Farias Lóscio > Centro de Informática > Universidade Federal de Pernambuco - UFPE, Brazil > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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