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Re: Call for comments on open questions about the audience for the DWBP doc

From: Phil Archer <phila@w3.org>
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 07:58:01 +0000
Message-ID: <54AE3889.2030808@w3.org>
To: Annette Greiner <amgreiner@lbl.gov>
CC: Bernadette Farias Lóscio <bfl@cin.ufpe.br>, "public-dwbp-wg@w3.org" <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org>
A big +1 - that captures it perfectly IMO

Thanks Annette.

On 07/01/2015 22:00, Annette Greiner wrote:
> I think this muddies the picture a little bit. If we hint that we are attempting to provide guidance to people other than publishers, then we need to explain that. (Who else? Why would I want to read it if I’m not a data publisher?)
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> I’m fine with the simpler language, but I’ll offer this alternative to the alternative.
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> This document provides guidance to those who publish data on the Web. The best practices are designed to meet the needs of information management staff, developers, and wider groups such as scientists interested in sharing and reusing research data on the Web. We encourage anyone involved in the data life cycle to become familiar with them, as today’s data consumers are tomorrow’s data publishers. Every attempt has been made to make the document as readable and usable as possible while still retaining the accuracy and clarity needed in a technical specification.
> --
> Annette Greiner
> NERSC Data and Analytics Services
> Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
> 510-495-2935
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> On Jan 7, 2015, at 10:46 AM, Phil Archer <phila@w3.org> wrote:
>
>> I offer this:
>>
>> This document provides guidance primarily to those who publish data on the Web. The best practices are designed to meet the needs of information management staff, developers and wider groups such as scientists interested in sharing and reusing research data on the Web. Every attempt has been made to make the document as readable and usable as possible while still retaining the accuracy and clarity needed in a technical specification.
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>> Use/edit/discard at will
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>> Phil.
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>> On 07/01/2015 18:38, Annette Greiner wrote:
>>> +1 !!
>>> --
>>> Annette Greiner
>>> NERSC Data and Analytics Services
>>> Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
>>> 510-495-2935
>>>
>>> On Jan 7, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Laufer <laufer@globo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>> abrcLau
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2015-01-07 11:50 GMT-02:00 Bernadette Farias Lóscio <bfl@cin.ufpe.br>:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I'm doing the updates on the document and I'd like to know your opinion about the text for the Audience section.
>>>>
>>>> After our last meeting, we got an agreement that the doc may have a primary and a secondary audience.However, I'm not sure if it is necessary to say this explicitly on the text.
>>>>
>>>> The current text is:
>>>> This document provides guidance to those who publish data on the Web, as well as those who consume data on the Web. These best practices have been written to meet the needs of many different audiences from developers and information management staff to scientists interested in sharing and reusing research data on the Web. Every attempt has been made to make the document as readable and usable as possible while still retaining the accuracy and clarity needed in a technical specification.
>>>>
>>>> I propose to change the first sentence to:
>>>> This document provides best practices to those who publish data on the Web.
>>>>
>>>> What do you think?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Bernadette
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2014-12-19 11:29 GMT-03:00 Makx Dekkers <mail@makxdekkers.com>:
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>>>>
>>>> Bernadette,
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ø  I am still not convinced that the DWBP document is not interesting for re-users (already using the terminology presented by Makx) even if the scope is just BP for data publishers. If re-users will manipulate the data, don't you think that it will be good if they have some knowledge about the best practices used to create and publish the data?
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So let’s try to define ‘audience’. I think the ‘audience’ for the BP document is the group of people that we want to act on the best practice. In the BP document, we’re trying to tell data publishers to do things in a certain way.
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>>>> This does not say that we’re not allowing anyone else, especially the data consumers; to read the document, but we’re not telling them to do anything themselves.
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>>>>
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>>>> What will happen is that when data consumers read the document, they might note that a particular publisher does not follow best practice as described in the BP document. If that happens, they could contact the publisher and complain.
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is similar to the European Union’s Directive on the re-use of public sector information. That Directive tells public sector bodies what they MUST and MUST NOT do. Anyone who wants to re-use information can read the Directive and the national law that implements it and then complain if a particular public sector body does not adhere to the principles laid down in the Directive.
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>>>> Makx.
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>>>> --
>>>> Bernadette Farias Lóscio
>>>> Centro de Informática
>>>> Universidade Federal de Pernambuco - UFPE, Brazil
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>> Phil Archer
>> W3C Data Activity Lead
>> http://www.w3.org/2013/data/
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>> http://philarcher.org
>> +44 (0)7887 767755
>> @philarcher1
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Phil Archer
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