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Re: Call for comments on open questions about the audience for the DWBP doc

From: Adriano C. Machado Pereira <adrianoc@dcc.ufmg.br>
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 14:28:18 -0200
Message-ID: <CAMDPrXY7HRrxhj_BrZZX8Ljnpe5PYzvkJxhFT6JvZfRMwemEww@mail.gmail.com>
To: Phil Archer <phila@w3.org>
Cc: Annette Greiner <amgreiner@lbl.gov>, Bernadette Farias Lóscio <bfl@cin.ufpe.br>, "public-dwbp-wg@w3.org" <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org>
A +1 also and Happy New Year everyone!

Regards,
Adriano.
--
Adriano C. Machado Pereira.

On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 5:58 AM, Phil Archer <phila@w3.org> wrote:

> A big +1 - that captures it perfectly IMO
>
> Thanks Annette.
>
>
> On 07/01/2015 22:00, Annette Greiner wrote:
>
>> I think this muddies the picture a little bit. If we hint that we are
>> attempting to provide guidance to people other than publishers, then we
>> need to explain that. (Who else? Why would I want to read it if I’m not a
>> data publisher?)
>>
>> I’m fine with the simpler language, but I’ll offer this alternative to
>> the alternative.
>>
>> This document provides guidance to those who publish data on the Web. The
>> best practices are designed to meet the needs of information management
>> staff, developers, and wider groups such as scientists interested in
>> sharing and reusing research data on the Web. We encourage anyone involved
>> in the data life cycle to become familiar with them, as today’s data
>> consumers are tomorrow’s data publishers. Every attempt has been made to
>> make the document as readable and usable as possible while still retaining
>> the accuracy and clarity needed in a technical specification.
>> --
>> Annette Greiner
>> NERSC Data and Analytics Services
>> Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
>> 510-495-2935
>>
>> On Jan 7, 2015, at 10:46 AM, Phil Archer <phila@w3.org> wrote:
>>
>>  I offer this:
>>>
>>> This document provides guidance primarily to those who publish data on
>>> the Web. The best practices are designed to meet the needs of information
>>> management staff, developers and wider groups such as scientists interested
>>> in sharing and reusing research data on the Web. Every attempt has been
>>> made to make the document as readable and usable as possible while still
>>> retaining the accuracy and clarity needed in a technical specification.
>>>
>>> Use/edit/discard at will
>>>
>>> Phil.
>>>
>>> On 07/01/2015 18:38, Annette Greiner wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1 !!
>>>> --
>>>> Annette Greiner
>>>> NERSC Data and Analytics Services
>>>> Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
>>>> 510-495-2935
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 7, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Laufer <laufer@globo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  +1
>>>>>
>>>>> abrcLau
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2015-01-07 11:50 GMT-02:00 Bernadette Farias Lóscio <bfl@cin.ufpe.br>:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm doing the updates on the document and I'd like to know your
>>>>> opinion about the text for the Audience section.
>>>>>
>>>>> After our last meeting, we got an agreement that the doc may have a
>>>>> primary and a secondary audience.However, I'm not sure if it is necessary
>>>>> to say this explicitly on the text.
>>>>>
>>>>> The current text is:
>>>>> This document provides guidance to those who publish data on the Web,
>>>>> as well as those who consume data on the Web. These best practices have
>>>>> been written to meet the needs of many different audiences from developers
>>>>> and information management staff to scientists interested in sharing and
>>>>> reusing research data on the Web. Every attempt has been made to make the
>>>>> document as readable and usable as possible while still retaining the
>>>>> accuracy and clarity needed in a technical specification.
>>>>>
>>>>> I propose to change the first sentence to:
>>>>> This document provides best practices to those who publish data on the
>>>>> Web.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> Bernadette
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2014-12-19 11:29 GMT-03:00 Makx Dekkers <mail@makxdekkers.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bernadette,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ø  I am still not convinced that the DWBP document is not interesting
>>>>> for re-users (already using the terminology presented by Makx) even if the
>>>>> scope is just BP for data publishers. If re-users will manipulate the data,
>>>>> don't you think that it will be good if they have some knowledge about the
>>>>> best practices used to create and publish the data?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So let’s try to define ‘audience’. I think the ‘audience’ for the BP
>>>>> document is the group of people that we want to act on the best practice.
>>>>> In the BP document, we’re trying to tell data publishers to do things in a
>>>>> certain way.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This does not say that we’re not allowing anyone else, especially the
>>>>> data consumers; to read the document, but we’re not telling them to do
>>>>> anything themselves.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What will happen is that when data consumers read the document, they
>>>>> might note that a particular publisher does not follow best practice as
>>>>> described in the BP document. If that happens, they could contact the
>>>>> publisher and complain.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is similar to the European Union’s Directive on the re-use of
>>>>> public sector information. That Directive tells public sector bodies what
>>>>> they MUST and MUST NOT do. Anyone who wants to re-use information can read
>>>>> the Directive and the national law that implements it and then complain if
>>>>> a particular public sector body does not adhere to the principles laid down
>>>>> in the Directive.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Makx.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Bernadette Farias Lóscio
>>>>> Centro de Informática
>>>>> Universidade Federal de Pernambuco - UFPE, Brazil
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> ----------------
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> Phil Archer
>>> W3C Data Activity Lead
>>> http://www.w3.org/2013/data/
>>>
>>> http://philarcher.org
>>> +44 (0)7887 767755
>>> @philarcher1
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> --
>
>
> Phil Archer
> W3C Data Activity Lead
> http://www.w3.org/2013/data/
>
> http://philarcher.org
> +44 (0)7887 767755
> @philarcher1
>
>
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