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RE: Webcast: Norstella & DIN talks about European digital identity wallet (just finished)

From: Michael Herman (Trusted Digital Web) <mwherman@parallelspace.net>
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2021 13:21:09 +0000
To: Nikos Fotiou <fotiou@aueb.gr>, 'public-credentials' <public-credentials@w3.org>
Message-ID: <MWHPR1301MB20945FB34A559890CD3DE76FC3D49@MWHPR1301MB2094.namprd13.prod.outlook.com>
Nikos and others, I apologize for my use of “far right” in an EU context.  I wasn’t aware of its connection with the Nazis occupation.  I did have a very specific different intended meaning.

An aside: I am of Polish descent on my mother’s side. Family land was annexed to create part of the Birkenau concentration camp. My great aunt gave refuge to a few that were able to escape. I have visited both the Auschwitz and Birkenau concentration camps twice each in the last 10 years.

Please accept my sincere apologies,
Michael

From: Nikos Fotiou <fotiou@aueb.gr>
Sent: September 7, 2021 12:59 PM
To: Michael Herman (Trusted Digital Web) <mwherman@parallelspace.net>; 'public-credentials' <public-credentials@w3.org>
Subject: RE: Webcast: Norstella & DIN talks about European digital identity wallet (just finished)

Hi,
Just a friendly note: terms like “very far-right” are sensitive in Europe; accusing people/ideas/project of being far-right, or implying that EU is far-right can be offensive.

Best,
Nikos

From: Michael Herman (Trusted Digital Web) <mwherman@parallelspace.net<mailto:mwherman@parallelspace.net>>
Sent: Tuesday, September 7, 2021 6:35 PM
To: public-credentials (public-credentials@w3.org<mailto:public-credentials@w3.org>) <public-credentials@w3.org<mailto:public-credentials@w3.org>>
Subject: Webcast: Norstella & DIN talks about European digital identity wallet (just finished)

The webcast Norstella & DIN talks about the European digital identity wallet (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87bwwKKSWis) just finished. Unfortunately, IMO, this initiative is a very good example of a very far-right centralizationist approach to digital identity and credentials (https://hyperonomy.com/2021/02/10/is-the-social-evolution-model-harmful/) …and, as an EU initiative, IMO I believe it’s not likely to change.

That being said, I think it’s instructive and valuable to watch this 1-hour webcast (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87bwwKKSWis) and to form your own opinions. About 30 people attended the original broadcast.

Here is a list of some of the questions/comments I posed.  A highlight of the webcast is that most were presented and considered/answered by the panel.  Thank you.

My List of Questions/Comments

Michael Herman
​Are you actually authenticating the values of the attributes? ...or perhaps, more accurately, are you simply providing for the verifiability of the digital container/envelope for the attribute data?

Michael Herman
​How will a corner grocery store or convenience store or other small business be able to self-issue credentials?

Michael Herman
​Does the scope of what can be stored in the wallet include verifiable business documents such as purchase orders, invoices, waybills, and delivery confirmations?

Michael Herman
​If the attribute data being provided is part of my personal data (data I own and control), how do I as a person get paid?

Michael Herman
​Comment: Sounds very much like a centralizationist directed project. Very unfortunate.

Michael Herman
​Another good article: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/canadian-banks-trafficking-digital-identities-canadians-herman/


Michael Herman
​Article characterizing far-left self-sovereigntists vs. far-right centralizationists: https://hyperonomy.com/2021/02/10/is-the-social-evolution-model-harmful/


Michael Herman
​Article characterizing far-left self-sovereigntists vs. far-right centralizationists: https://hyperonomy.com/2021/02/10/is-the-social-evolution-model-harmful/


Michael Herman
​How are you engaging with the needs of individual citizens and small business? ...vs. large commercial "sectors" and governments?

Michael Herman
​Please ask about people getting paid for their data

Michael Herman
​Background: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/canadian-banks-trafficking-digital-identities-canadians-herman/


Michael Herman
​Read https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/canadian-banks-trafficking-digital-identities-canadians-herman/


Michael Herman
​People are actors too

DIN
​https://meet.jit.si/DIN-TPS


DIN
​that link and heyja as password

Best regards,
Michael Herman
Far Left Self-Sovereignist
First Principles Thinker

Self-Sovereign Blockchain Architect
Trusted Digital Web
Hyperonomy Digital Identity Lab
Parallelspace Corporation

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