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Re: Zoom is shite

From: Kim Hamilton <kimdhamilton@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 11:45:58 -0700
Message-ID: <CAFmmOzeUHrZCVwkrjsB16Mt-ptCxbtcf6BnTvbMckB6pkJ73BQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
Cc: "W3C Credentials CG (Public List)" <public-credentials@w3.org>
alternate zoom-based future uses my vtt2irc tool to process zoom autoscribe
results and looks like this:
https://w3c-ccg.github.io/meetings/2020-10-19-vc-education/

More fixes needed, but pretty neato!

On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 8:57 AM Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
wrote:

> On 10/26/20 2:31 PM, Heather Vescent wrote:
> > For me, this is about practicality and accessibility, not technological
> > fundamentalism. It's about enabling the chairs and the community to most
> > effectively make positive change in the future of credentials, wallets,
> > DIDs, VCs, SSI, e.g. the topic at hand.
>
> If folks want to see what a Zoom-based future looks like, you only have
> to look at how the DIF SDS WG's transcripts and recordings are going:
>
> Entire meetings missing transcripts, no transcripts being sent to W3C
> CCG mailing list (a joint partner in that work effort):
>
> https://lists.identity.foundation/g/sds-wg/wiki/23488
> https://lists.identity.foundation/g/sds-wg/wiki/23489
> https://lists.identity.foundation/g/sds-wg/wiki/23480
> https://lists.identity.foundation/g/sds-wg/wiki/23011
> https://lists.identity.foundation/g/sds-wg/wiki/22693
>
> Entire meeting recordings and transcripts missing:
>
> https://lists.identity.foundation/g/sds-wg/wiki/23066
> https://lists.identity.foundation/g/sds-wg/wiki/22687
>
> ... and all of those recordings and transcripts are on proprietary
> infrastructure that could disappear tomorrow (no backups).
>
> That is no way to build an open standard.
>
> To be clear, I'm not throwing shade at the DIF SDS WG Chairs or DIF...
> they're doing their best with what they have. That said, those
> transparency gaps are what not having the proper infrastructure and
> humans involved at every step of the process leads to. That is what our
> future looks like if we switch to Zoom permanently.
>
> We need infrastructure that helps us run meetings AND record what
> happened in those meetings for archival, accessibility, and intellectual
> property release purposes. Zoom only solves part of the equation and
> will never get us to something that's fully automated. Jitsi provides a
> path forward for full automation... but it'll take time and effort to
> get there.
>
> -- manu
>
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