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Re: Zoom is shite

From: Heather Vescent <heathervescent@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 12:46:29 -0700
Message-ID: <CA+C6qMwrpk+rXy-M6O_udphqtomHB_NfG+hDBq5XmkeeCD4e0w@mail.gmail.com>
To: Kim Hamilton <kimdhamilton@gmail.com>
Cc: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>, "W3C Credentials CG (Public List)" <public-credentials@w3.org>
These minutes are AMAZING Kim! A++ Use of Zoom + autoscribing. Showing a
different kind of Zoom minutes future, which is fast, complete and

On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 11:48 AM Kim Hamilton <kimdhamilton@gmail.com>

> alternate zoom-based future uses my vtt2irc tool to process zoom
> autoscribe results and looks like this:
> https://w3c-ccg.github.io/meetings/2020-10-19-vc-education/
> More fixes needed, but pretty neato!
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 8:57 AM Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
> wrote:
>> On 10/26/20 2:31 PM, Heather Vescent wrote:
>> > For me, this is about practicality and accessibility, not technological
>> > fundamentalism. It's about enabling the chairs and the community to most
>> > effectively make positive change in the future of credentials, wallets,
>> > DIDs, VCs, SSI, e.g. the topic at hand.
>> If folks want to see what a Zoom-based future looks like, you only have
>> to look at how the DIF SDS WG's transcripts and recordings are going:
>> Entire meetings missing transcripts, no transcripts being sent to W3C
>> CCG mailing list (a joint partner in that work effort):
>> https://lists.identity.foundation/g/sds-wg/wiki/23488
>> https://lists.identity.foundation/g/sds-wg/wiki/23489
>> https://lists.identity.foundation/g/sds-wg/wiki/23480
>> https://lists.identity.foundation/g/sds-wg/wiki/23011
>> https://lists.identity.foundation/g/sds-wg/wiki/22693
>> Entire meeting recordings and transcripts missing:
>> https://lists.identity.foundation/g/sds-wg/wiki/23066
>> https://lists.identity.foundation/g/sds-wg/wiki/22687
>> ... and all of those recordings and transcripts are on proprietary
>> infrastructure that could disappear tomorrow (no backups).
>> That is no way to build an open standard.
>> To be clear, I'm not throwing shade at the DIF SDS WG Chairs or DIF...
>> they're doing their best with what they have. That said, those
>> transparency gaps are what not having the proper infrastructure and
>> humans involved at every step of the process leads to. That is what our
>> future looks like if we switch to Zoom permanently.
>> We need infrastructure that helps us run meetings AND record what
>> happened in those meetings for archival, accessibility, and intellectual
>> property release purposes. Zoom only solves part of the equation and
>> will never get us to something that's fully automated. Jitsi provides a
>> path forward for full automation... but it'll take time and effort to
>> get there.
>> -- manu
>> --
>> Manu Sporny - https://www.linkedin.com/in/manusporny/
>> Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc.
>> blog: Veres One Decentralized Identifier Blockchain Launches
>> https://tinyurl.com/veres-one-launches

Heather Vescent <http://www.heathervescent.com/>
Co-Chair, Credentials Community Group @W3C
President, The Purple Tornado, Inc <https://thepurpletornado.com/>
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Author, The Cyber Attack Survival Manual
Dec 2020)
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