Re: Zoom is shite

Just wanted to ask a question about the Jitsi effort...

Has anyone discussed the possibility of dogfooding VCs and DIDs in 
Jitsi? This would be much easier than trying to integrate with Zoom as 
an initial pilot.

My feeling is that a robust open source WebRTC based webinar solution, 
that's free and leveraging tokenomics in some way - but more 
importantly, really nails the UX for VC/DIDs - would be a great way to 
showcase the upside potential of decentralization.

Moses


On 10/27/20 8:50 AM, Manu Sporny wrote:
> On 10/27/20 6:08 AM, Yancy wrote:
>> The majority of responses from community and _not_ from leadership have
>> been in favor of _not_ using Zoom.  I think the current work done by
>> volunteers to deploy the current Jitsi solution is awesome, and I hope
>> the spirit will not be lost by "temporarily" switching back to Zoom.
> I'd like to add to Ryan, Amy, and Yancy's concerns while underscoring
> what I believe the Chairs are attempting to achieve.
>
> I am 100% committed to fixing the W3C CCGs teleconference
> infrastructure. I've personally put in hundreds of hours over the past
> decade putting the previous 3 iterations of the system in place, and
> over 70 hours of work into rewriting the latest Jitsi-based iteration. I
> will happily continue to put in the effort as long as we're committed to
> build inclusive, open-standards based solutions upon which to do our work.
>
> The new Chairs set inclusivity and responsiveness to the needs of the
> community as a goal, which I take seriously.
>
> To be crystal clear, I am strongly opposed to Zoom as a long-term
> solution for this community group. We are here to build open standards
> and it looks hypocritical for us to do so using proprietary technology
> if there is a viable alternative.
>
> At the same time, the Chairs and most of the community want tools that
> help us have an effective meeting first and foremost, and prioritize
> that over using open standards to hold those meetings.
>
> With that in mind, I did request that the Chairs hold this weeks (and
> possibly next weeks) meeting on Zoom because Jitsi not enabling 20% of
> the people behind aggressive firewalls to join the meeting via their
> choice of browser will lead to distrust in our infrastructure. People
> don't like it when things don't "just work".
>
> Yes, the people that couldn't join via Jitsi always have the option to
> join via IRC and via phone, but there would be complaints resulting in
> something akin to the flip side of this thread: "Why do we have to use
> Jitsi when it doesn't work for everyone!? Aren't we excluding a part of
> the community?! What, I have to use a *phone*!?!"
>
> Just voicing an opinion as a member of this community. I'll send a
> separate email wrt. the status of the upgrade and expected timeline.
>
> -- manu
>

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