- From: Ehud Shapiro אהוד שפירא <ehud.shapiro@weizmann.ac.il>
- Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 07:10:56 +0300
- To: paoladimaio10@googlemail.com
- Cc: David Booth <david@dbooth.org>, W3C Credentials Community Group <public-credentials@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAPpwrpH5yE1ip4TLk_Ns5VKgghTcaUUYDdOjpeNNtVhG6YhVMA@mail.gmail.com>
Israel has a pretty good one. It's open source https://www.gov.il/en/departments/news/22032020_04 בתאריך שבת, 28 במרץ 2020 ב-6:56 מאת Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>: > Hi David > this is important, thanks- > > I am in a location in Asia - better not specify since very aggressive folks > have been tackling me at close range despite me taking all the necessary > precautions to prevent it > > I know that new visitors in quarantine are being phone tracked- > they are being informed as much, and agree to both the quarantine and the > tracking > > However the other day as I was sitting next to a local friend, she > received an alert on her phone, followed by a phone call, all a local > language which I do not understand > > After that, she started becoming very inquisitive about my arrival date > whereabouts and contacts to other foreigners etc. I reassured her that I > arrived long before the epidemic started and have sparse contacts with > other foreigners after which she seemed reassured > > So, not only newcominers are being finromed of surveillance and agree to > it. but > there are mechanisms to alert citizens when their cell comes into range of > a cell which is registered to a foreign passport, this is all under the > radar afaik > > So your inquiry touches me personally > > How to design a good useful app that respects privacy.... tough one. > I think you need to design an expert system/decision support tree > that the app must follow in the alert workflow > > I d design a decision tree first > Ping me offlist pls if you need my input > > PDM > > > On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 11:38 AM David Booth <david@dbooth.org> wrote: > >> On 3/27/20 11:18 PM, Moses Ma wrote: >> > How do y’all feel about Singapore’s TraceTogether? >> > See: >> > >> https://www.businessinsider.com/singapore-coronavirus-app-tracking-testing-no-shutdown-how-it-works-2020-3 >> > Also: >> > >> https://www.tech.gov.sg/media/technews/tracetogether-behind-the-scenes-look-at-its-development-process >> > >> > How would you design a fully decentralized contact tracer? >> >> Or, more broadly: how would you design a privacy-protecting contact >> tracer? This is urgently needed. >> >> Potential variations: 1. The app notifies you if it determines that you >> may have been exposed to COVID-19, without saying how it made that >> determination. 2. The app notifies healthcare officials that you may >> have been exposed, without telling them how it made that determination. >> >> Ideas? >> >> David Booth >> >> > >> > Moses >> > >> > >> > - >> > *Moses Ma | FutureLab Consulting Inc* >> > moses.ma@futurelabconsulting.com | moses@ngenven.com >> > v +1.415.952.7888 <tel:+1.415.952.7888> | m +1.415.568.1068 >> > <tel:+1.415.568.1068> | skype mosesma >> > >> > >> > >> >> On Mar 27, 2020 at 9:44 AM, <Ian Smith <mailto:ian@vidicode.pro>> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> proposing anti covid-19 protests to avoid saving lives is part of the >> >> ethos here? I wasn't aware that preventing the countermeasure to >> >> pandemic response was what this group was about >> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020, 6:10 AM Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com >> >> <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.com>> wrote: >> >> >> >> On 3/27/20 8:41 AM, Daniel Hardman wrote: >> >> > I will try to join you. Thank you for suggesting it. >> >> >> >> I can't join, but thank you for the message and I'll observe the >> >> moment >> >> of silence, Christopher. >> >> >> >> Visiting the memorial in person with people from this group was >> moving >> >> and a reminder that we need to keep these painful lessons from the >> >> past >> >> in mind as we build out these systems. >> >> >> >> > @Ian: I share your frustration with the surveillance economy, >> >> but feel >> >> > that your comment steps away from the ethos of our group. >> >> >> >> I'd like to underscore Daniel's comment. Many of us are in this >> group >> >> because we share in the frustration with the current surveillance >> >> economy. That said, the frustration is no excuse to tear down what >> >> others in the community are building. Your criticism was not >> >> constructive, please refrain from doing that again. >> >> >> >> We need to focus on helping each other build the world that we >> want to >> >> see realized. >> >> >> >> -- manu >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Manu Sporny - https://www.linkedin.com/in/manusporny/ >> >> Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc. >> >> blog: Veres One Decentralized Identifier Blockchain Launches >> >> https://tinyurl.com/veres-one-launches >> >> >> >> -- Sent from Gmail Mobile
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