Re: Privacy-protecting contact tracer for COVID-19? [was Re: A Moment of Silence #Foremembrance Today at 19:06 CET, 2:06 pm EDT, 11:06 am PDT, and Saturday at 2:06am in Hong Kong & Taipei]

Israel has a pretty good one.
It's open source
https://www.gov.il/en/departments/news/22032020_04


בתאריך שבת, 28 במרץ 2020 ב-6:56 מאת Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>:

> Hi David
> this is important, thanks-
>
> I am in a location in Asia - better not specify since very aggressive folks
> have been tackling me at close range despite me taking all the necessary
> precautions to prevent it
>
> I know that new visitors in quarantine are being phone tracked-
> they are being informed as much, and agree to both the quarantine and the
> tracking
>
> However the other day as I was sitting next to a local friend, she
> received an alert on her phone, followed by a phone call, all a local
> language which I do not understand
>
>  After that, she started becoming very inquisitive about my arrival date
> whereabouts and contacts to other foreigners etc. I reassured her that I
> arrived long before the epidemic started and have sparse contacts with
> other foreigners after which she seemed reassured
>
> So, not only newcominers are being finromed of surveillance and agree to
> it. but
> there are mechanisms to alert citizens when their cell comes into range of
> a cell which is registered to a foreign passport, this is all under the
> radar afaik
>
> So your inquiry touches me personally
>
> How to design a good useful app that respects privacy....  tough one.
> I think you need to design an expert system/decision support tree
> that the app must follow in the alert workflow
>
> I d design a decision tree first
> Ping me offlist pls if you need my input
>
> PDM
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 11:38 AM David Booth <david@dbooth.org> wrote:
>
>> On 3/27/20 11:18 PM, Moses Ma wrote:
>> > How do y’all feel about Singapore’s TraceTogether?
>> > See:
>> >
>> https://www.businessinsider.com/singapore-coronavirus-app-tracking-testing-no-shutdown-how-it-works-2020-3
>> > Also:
>> >
>> https://www.tech.gov.sg/media/technews/tracetogether-behind-the-scenes-look-at-its-development-process
>> >
>> > How would you design a fully decentralized contact tracer?
>>
>> Or, more broadly: how would you design a privacy-protecting contact
>> tracer?  This is urgently needed.
>>
>> Potential variations: 1. The app notifies you if it determines that you
>> may have been exposed to COVID-19, without saying how it made that
>> determination.  2. The app notifies healthcare officials that you may
>> have been exposed, without telling them how it made that determination.
>>
>> Ideas?
>>
>> David Booth
>>
>> >
>> > Moses
>> >
>> >
>> > -
>> > *Moses Ma | FutureLab Consulting Inc*
>> > moses.ma@futurelabconsulting.com | moses@ngenven.com
>> > v +1.415.952.7888 <tel:+1.415.952.7888> | m +1.415.568.1068
>> > <tel:+1.415.568.1068> | skype mosesma
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Mar 27, 2020 at 9:44 AM, <Ian Smith <mailto:ian@vidicode.pro>>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> proposing anti covid-19 protests to avoid saving lives is part of the
>> >> ethos here? I wasn't aware that preventing the countermeasure to
>> >> pandemic response was what this group was about
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020, 6:10 AM Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com
>> >> <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.com>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>     On 3/27/20 8:41 AM, Daniel Hardman wrote:
>> >>     > I will try to join you. Thank you for suggesting it.
>> >>
>> >>     I can't join, but thank you for the message and I'll observe the
>> >>     moment
>> >>     of silence, Christopher.
>> >>
>> >>     Visiting the memorial in person with people from this group was
>> moving
>> >>     and a reminder that we need to keep these painful lessons from the
>> >>     past
>> >>     in mind as we build out these systems.
>> >>
>> >>     > @Ian: I share your frustration with the surveillance economy,
>> >>     but feel
>> >>     > that your comment steps away from the ethos of our group.
>> >>
>> >>     I'd like to underscore Daniel's comment. Many of us are in this
>> group
>> >>     because we share in the frustration with the current surveillance
>> >>     economy. That said, the frustration is no excuse to tear down what
>> >>     others in the community are building. Your criticism was not
>> >>     constructive, please refrain from doing that again.
>> >>
>> >>     We need to focus on helping each other build the world that we
>> want to
>> >>     see realized.
>> >>
>> >>     -- manu
>> >>
>> >>     --
>> >>     Manu Sporny - https://www.linkedin.com/in/manusporny/
>> >>     Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc.
>> >>     blog: Veres One Decentralized Identifier Blockchain Launches
>> >>     https://tinyurl.com/veres-one-launches
>> >>
>>
>> --
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