- From: Loretta Guarino Reid <lorettaguarino@google.com>
- Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 16:47:58 -0700
- To: "Gian Sampson-Wild" <gian@tkh.com.au>
- Cc: public-comments-WCAG20@w3.org
Comment 90: Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/001f01c695f9$31b504e0$9288b23a@tkhcomputer (Issue ID: LC-1117) Situation A - If a mandatory field contains no information: also add "and provides an example of a correct answer" Proposed Change: For example, incorrectly filled out fields have a message that says "This field has been filled out incorrectly. Please enter your age, for example "18" " ---------------------------- Response from Working Group: ---------------------------- The Working Group does not feel that requiring examples of mandatory fields is required in all situations. For example, an example for a required first or last name field is generally not necessary. Likewise, there is no description needed for a drop down selection. However, we have added a note that some of the situations may be combined. Note: In some cases, more than one of these situations may apply. For example, when a mandatory field also requires the data to be in a specific format. ---------------------------------------------------------- Comment 91: Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/001f01c695f9$31b504e0$9288b23a@tkhcomputer (Issue ID: LC-1118) Examples: The two examples should be moved to Advisory Techniques ---------------------------- Response from Working Group: ---------------------------- The working group believes that these examples are just specific instances of some of the already listed future advisory techniques. There are many ways of meeting this success criterion and we don't want to give undue weight to particular instances by providing advisory techniques about some methods and not others. The example titled "Additional Help for Correcting An Input Error" would be covered in the "Displaying errors and suggestions in the context of the original form (for example, re-displaying a form where input errors and suggestions for correction are highlighted and displayed in the context of the original form)" technique. The example about correcting the input of months would be covered in the technique titled, "Providing a text message that contains information about the number of input errors, suggestions for corrections for each item, and instructions on how to proceed". ---------------------------------------------------------- Comment 92: Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/001f01c695f9$31b504e0$9288b23a@tkhcomputer (Issue ID: LC-1119) Is this SC about providing corrections to field errors or highlighting field errors. The techniques and examples seem contradictory Proposed Change: Clarify the techniques and examples ---------------------------- Response from Working Group: ---------------------------- The working group feels that the three situations in How To Meet SC 3.3.2 (formerly 2.5.2) do require that suggestions for correction be provided. The description and examples in these techniques provide general instructions for how to highlight the error and what type of information should be provided to help the user correct the error. The How To Meet document has also been updated to indicate that more than one situation and technique may apply. We have also retained Situation A about mandatory fields since the user needs to be informed that a field is required but may not always require suggested corrections such as in the case of a field requiring the user name. In addition, the following HTML and Client Side Scripting future Techniques have been added as sufficient for Situations B and C Situation B: If information for a field is required to be in a specific data format: 1. G85: Providing a text description when user input falls outside the required format or values 2. Providing links to suggested correction text "close to" form fields, or providing the suggested correction text itself directly on the Web unit "next to" form fields (future link) 3. SCR18: Providing client-side validation and alert (SCRIPT) 4. Providing client-side validation and adding error text via the DOM (future link) Situation C: Information provided by the user is required to be one of a limited set of values: 1. G84: Providing a text description when the user provides information that is not in the list of allowed values 2. Providing links to suggested correction text "close to" form fields, or providing the suggested correction text itself directly on the Web unit "next to" form fields (future link) 3. SCR18: Providing client-side validation and alert (SCRIPT) 4. Providing client-side validation and adding error text via the DOM (future link) ---------------------------------------------------------- Comment 93: Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/001f01c695f9$31b504e0$9288b23a@tkhcomputer (Issue ID: LC-1120) Situation A - If a mandatory field contains no information: recommend replacing text "text message" with another word - this has connotations with mobile phones Proposed Change: Rewrite the technique ---------------------------- Response from Working Group: ---------------------------- The working group has updated the title of technique G83 to, "Providing text descriptions to identify required fields that were not completed." We have also replaced occurrences of "text message" with "text description." ---------------------------------------------------------- Comment 94: Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/001f01c695f9$31b504e0$9288b23a@tkhcomputer (Issue ID: LC-1121) Situation A - If an application causes a legal transaction…: what is a "period of time"? Is this going to be quantified? Should we be doing that? Proposed Change: Clarify the Technique ---------------------------- Response from Working Group: ---------------------------- When this technique is completed, guidelines for the period of time will be qualified within the technique based on the situations provided. For example, when accepting an on-line loan offer there may be a legal requirement that the transaction can be reversed within a certain number of hours or days. A loan payment, however, may have a much shorter time period to cancel. ---------------------------------------------------------- Comment 95: Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/001f01c695f9$31b504e0$9288b23a@tkhcomputer (Issue ID: LC-1122) Situation B - If an action causes information to be deleted… Providing a message to the user asking him or her to confirm…: I disagree that this should be a valid technique. There should be further ability to recover deleted information Proposed Change: Remove this Technique ---------------------------- Response from Working Group: ---------------------------- The working group believes that providing a confirmation is sufficient before deleting information and has included this option in the success criterion text. Not all deletions can be easily reversed. For example, if a user has placed a hold on an event ticket, deleting that hold may immediately make that ticket available for purchase by another user. The action is therefore not reversible if there are then no more tickets available for purchase. ---------------------------------------------------------- Comment 96: Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/001f01c695f9$31b504e0$9288b23a@tkhcomputer (Issue ID: LC-1123) Situation B - If an action causes information to be deleted… Requiring a user to select a checkbox…: This technique doesn't make sense Proposed Change: Rewrite the technique ---------------------------- Response from Working Group: ---------------------------- The intent of this future technique is to force the user to confirm that he is aware that a deletion action will occur. We have rewritten the title of the technique to help clarify this intent. Requiring a user to select a confirmation checkbox before submitting an action that causes information to be deleted. (future link) ---------------------------------------------------------- Comment 97: Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/001f01c695f9$31b504e0$9288b23a@tkhcomputer (Issue ID: LC-1124) Benefits: These SC do not assist people with cognitive disabilities Proposed Change: Remove from the Benefits section that these SC assist people with cogntive disabilities ---------------------------- Response from Working Group: ---------------------------- We have revised the Benefits section of SC 3.1.1 and 3.1.2 to clarify how this success criterion assists people with certain classes of cognitive, learning, or language disabilities. ---------------------------------------------------------- Comment 98: Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/001f01c695f9$31b504e0$9288b23a@tkhcomputer (Issue ID: LC-1125) Resources: The Juicy Studio Readability Comprehension tool should be included ---------------------------- Response from Working Group: ---------------------------- Thanks for this recommendation. We have added this to the resources for Success Criterion 3.1.5. ---------------------------------------------------------- Comment 99: Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/001f01c695f9$31b504e0$9288b23a@tkhcomputer (Issue ID: LC-1126) RUBY element: Is the RUBY element supported by any user agents? If not this should be deleted or lack of support should be mentioned ---------------------------- Response from Working Group: ---------------------------- Since ruby markup is only defined for XHMTL 1.1, this is a sufficient technique if XHTML 1.1 is an accessibility-supported technology and is relied on. We added information to the User Agent Notes about additional support for ruby in Internet Explorer. ---------------------------------------------------------- Comment 100: Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/001f01c695f9$31b504e0$9288b23a@tkhcomputer (Issue ID: LC-1127) Viewport: What is the definition of this? Proposed Change: Replace viewport with another word or define it ---------------------------- Response from Working Group: ---------------------------- The term "viewport" was taken from the User Agent Accessibility Guidelines. We have added the definition of viewport to the WCAG2 Glossary. ---------------------------------------------------------- Comment 101: Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/001f01c695f9$31b504e0$9288b23a@tkhcomputer (Issue ID: LC-1128) A change in content is not always a change in context…: I would argue that a change in content is always a change in context. How do screen readers or magnifiers deal with expanding menus etc? Proposed Change: Clarify or rewrite SC ---------------------------- Response from Working Group: ---------------------------- A change in content that occurs because the user has requested a different view of the current content is not considered a change of context. However, it is necessary for assistive technology to be informed of the change. SC 4.1.2 has been changed to include state and properties among the information that must be programmatically determined and for which notifications of changes must be available to assistive technology. 4.1.2 Name-Role-Value: For all user interface components, the name and role can be programmatically determined, states, properties, and values that can be set by the user can be programmatically determined and programmatically set, and notification of changes to these items is available to user agents, including assistive technologies. ---------------------------------------------------------- Comment 102: Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/001f01c695f9$31b504e0$9288b23a@tkhcomputer (Issue ID: LC-1129) There are examples in the Intent section Proposed Change: All examples should be in the Examples or Failures section ---------------------------- Response from Working Group: ---------------------------- The examples in this item are not examples of the success criterion or meeting the success criterion but rather examples of what we mean by one of the terms in the success criterion. So these particular examples can't go in the examples section. ---------------------------------------------------------- Comment 103: Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/001f01c695f9$31b504e0$9288b23a@tkhcomputer (Issue ID: LC-1130) Needs more examples ---------------------------- Response from Working Group: ---------------------------- This success criterion requires that you not do something. We don't provide examples of things not to do because they can be misunderstood as examples of how to conform. We tried to think of positive examples of thing to do that didn't violate the provision but that was pretty much anything. We have provided one. If you can think of another positive example (not an example of a failure) we would be happy to include it as well. ---------------------------------------------------------- Comment 104: Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/001f01c695f9$31b504e0$9288b23a@tkhcomputer (Issue ID: LC-1131) Submit buttons: Research has found that labelling a button "Go" is not informative enough. Buttons should be labelled "Find", "Submit", "Search" etc instead Proposed Change: Change the technique & replace "Go" with "Find", "Search" etc ---------------------------- Response from Working Group: ---------------------------- We have changed the example in H32 to make the button label more explicit, and we have removed "Go" from the name of the Client-side Scripting technique.
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