- From: Loretta Guarino Reid <lorettaguarino@google.com>
- Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 16:45:29 -0700
- To: "William Loughborough" <love26@gorge.net>
- Cc: public-comments-WCAG20@w3.org
Dear William Loughborough , Thank you for your comments on the 2006 Last Call Working Draft of the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines 2.0 (WCAG 2.0 http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-WCAG20-20060427/). We appreciate the interest that you have taken in these guidelines. We apologize for the delay in getting back to you. We received many constructive comments, and sometimes addressing one issue would cause us to revise wording covered by an earlier issue. We therefore waited until all comments had been addressed before responding to commenters. This message contains the comments you submitted and the resolutions to your comments. Each comment includes a link to the archived copy of your original comment on http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/, and may also include links to the relevant changes in the updated WCAG 2.0 Public Working Draft at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/. PLEASE REVIEW the decisions for the following comments and reply to us by 7 June at public-comments-WCAG20@w3.org to say whether you are satisfied with the decision taken. Note that this list is publicly archived. We also welcome your comments on the rest of the updated WCAG 2.0 Public Working Draft by 29 June 2007. We have revised the guidelines and the accompanying documents substantially. A detailed summary of issues, revisions, and rationales for changes is at http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2007/05/change-summary.html . Please see http://www.w3.org/WAI/ for more information about the current review. Thank you, Loretta Guarino Reid, WCAG WG Co-Chair Gregg Vanderheiden, WCAG WG Co-Chair Michael Cooper, WCAG WG Staff Contact On behalf of the WCAG Working Group ---------------------------------------------------------- Comment 1: Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/4609E878.5040407@gorge.net (Issue ID: LC-1657) Item number: 1.1.1 Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change) The fourth bullet in 1.1.1 says "If non-text content is pure decoration, or used only for visual formatting, or if it is not presented to users, it is implemented such that it can be ignored by assistive technology." The strong implication is that this provision is there to make for less "babble" of unwanted descriptions of items with little/no non-visual intent. This is typically done by using "" (null alt-text) in place of "alt", "longdesc", whatever and does make for a less-cluttered audio environment in the case of a screen reader. Of greater significance is that it erects an exclusionary wall around a blind user who might be working in a Web Shop and in order to properly deal with the elements in question would be shut out from meaningful communication with co-workers. This should be re-examined from that point of view. Proposed Change: "pure decoration" should not be exempt from descriptive mandates via text. It is OK to make it easy for some blanket filtering, perhaps by putting "decor" at the beginning of the alt-text and having the screen reader know therefrom to not voice that one. ---------------------------- Response from Working Group: ---------------------------- The fourth bullet of SC 1.1.1 requires that "decorative" content be implemented so that it can be ignored by AT. It is up to the AT to decide whether or not to ignore it. We agree that it would be useful for AT to provide different modes or filters, depending on the user's preference. However, unless the content has been identified as decorative, the user agent will be unable to provide that choice. The success criterion in WCAG are intended to cover the normal mode of operation to an end user. A blind developer working in a Web shop would probably be able to use different tools to view the content than an end user (e.g. viewing the source), and so would not be excluded in the manner suggested.
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