- From: Loretta Guarino Reid <lorettaguarino@google.com>
- Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 16:42:14 -0700
- To: "Rich Caloggero" <rich_caloggero@wgbh.org>
- Cc: public-comments-WCAG20@w3.org
Dear Rich Caloggero , Thank you for your comments on the 2006 Last Call Working Draft of the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines 2.0 (WCAG 2.0 http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-WCAG20-20060427/). We appreciate the interest that you have taken in these guidelines. We apologize for the delay in getting back to you. We received many constructive comments, and sometimes addressing one issue would cause us to revise wording covered by an earlier issue. We therefore waited until all comments had been addressed before responding to commenters. This message contains the comments you submitted and the resolutions to your comments. Each comment includes a link to the archived copy of your original comment on http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/, and may also include links to the relevant changes in the updated WCAG 2.0 Public Working Draft at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/. PLEASE REVIEW the decisions for the following comments and reply to us by 7 June at public-comments-WCAG20@w3.org to say whether you are satisfied with the decision taken. Note that this list is publicly archived. We also welcome your comments on the rest of the updated WCAG 2.0 Public Working Draft by 29 June 2007. We have revised the guidelines and the accompanying documents substantially. A detailed summary of issues, revisions, and rationales for changes is at http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2007/05/change-summary.html . Please see http://www.w3.org/WAI/ for more information about the current review. Thank you, Loretta Guarino Reid, WCAG WG Co-Chair Gregg Vanderheiden, WCAG WG Co-Chair Michael Cooper, WCAG WG Staff Contact On behalf of the WCAG Working Group ---------------------------------------------------------- Comment 1: Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/20060526201139.C75DEBDA8@w3c4.w3.org (Issue ID: LC-651) Part of Item: Comment Type: GE Comment (including rationale for proposed change): I think 2.0 is bloated, and hard to understand. I can see on the one hand why it might need to be a bit more weighty than 1.0 because its scope is much wider (other formats besides HTML are considered). However, what they have come up with is exceedingly complex, convoluted, and not very comprehensible. Its not going to make promotion of accessibility any easier or more practical. In fact, it may have the opposite effect; people will avoid it like the plague, because they don\'t understand it, and they don\'t have time or energy to bother trying! I\'m not sure exactly what this means in practical terms. I see large corporations saying \"we don\'t have time to deal with this\", and the \"little guys\" just won\'t be bothered at all. Proposed Change: I think that instead of trying to incorporate all technologies and all \"disabilities\" into one large framework, WAI should consider breaking it up by technology (HTML/web, PDF and other stand-alone \"document\" formats, etc). Of course, then we get into issues like \"well when will w3c address my xxx format\", but I think format-specific accessibility issues and techniques for addressing those issues are complex enough to warrent being addressed separately. There might also be a more general introductory document that tries to unify things a bit by highlighting the general accessibility issues common among all formats. Breaking things down by disability might be useful, but again thorny issues arise like \"why hasn\'t the w3c addressed the needs of people with xxx disability\". Realistically, however, most accessibility issues relate to people with vision and hearing loss. Many solutions which address people with these disabilities will also address the needs of people with mobility impairments (input device independence). People with learning disabilities can also bennefit from guidelines not explicitly written for that group: if pages can be used via screen reader, then other intermediary software could use the same information to present the document in a way more conducive to folks with LD. In effect, making something usable by someone using a screen reader means that it is written in such a way that a software entity (in this case, a screen reader) can act as an intermediary in a way that preserves all the ritchness and semantics of the original document. If this is true, then we should be able to replace the screen reader with another software agent aimed at helping LD folks. Again, the points here are that the spec is too bloated and complex because its scope is too wide. Any kind of modularization, either as outlined above, or by breaking it down some other way, is good. ---------------------------- Response from Working Group: ---------------------------- We agree with the need to simplify the guidelines and have taken extensive steps to do so. Some of these include: Easier language to understand - Wrote simpler guidelines - Removed as many technical terms (jargon) as possible replacing them with plainer language or, where possible, their definitions - Eliminated several new or unfamiliar terms. (authored unit, etc.) - Removed the term Baseline and replaced it with "web technologies that are accessibility supported" and then defined what it means to be accessibility supported. - Removed the nesting of definitions where we could (i.e. definitions that pointed to other definitions) - Tried to word things in manners that are more understandable to different levels of Web expertise - Added short names/handles on each success criterion to make them easier to find and compare etc. - Simplified the conformance Shortening the document overall - Shortened the introduction - Moved much of the discussion out of the guidelines and put it in the Understanding WCAG 2.0 document - Shortened the conformance section and moved it after the guidelines - Moved mapping from WCAG 1 to a separate support document (so it can be updated more easily) Creating a Quick Practitioner-oriented Summary / Checklist-like document - Created a Quick Reference document that has just the Guidelines, success criteria and the techniques for meeting the success criteria. With regard to creating a separate set of guidelines for different disabilities, we don't think that would be effective. Web authors have enough trouble without having to consult multiple documents in order to create one accessible site for people with disabilities.
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