- From: Loretta Guarino Reid <lorettaguarino@google.com>
- Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 16:41:59 -0700
- To: "Monica Løland" <mol@handicap.dk>
- Cc: public-comments-WCAG20@w3.org
Dear Monica Løland, The Danish Council of Organisations of Disabled People (DSI) , Thank you for your comments on the 2006 Last Call Working Draft of the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines 2.0 (WCAG 2.0 http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-WCAG20-20060427/). We appreciate the interest that you have taken in these guidelines. We apologize for the delay in getting back to you. We received many constructive comments, and sometimes addressing one issue would cause us to revise wording covered by an earlier issue. We therefore waited until all comments had been addressed before responding to commenters. This message contains the comments you submitted and the resolutions to your comments. Each comment includes a link to the archived copy of your original comment on http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/, and may also include links to the relevant changes in the updated WCAG 2.0 Public Working Draft at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/. PLEASE REVIEW the decisions for the following comments and reply to us by 7 June at public-comments-WCAG20@w3.org to say whether you are satisfied with the decision taken. Note that this list is publicly archived. We also welcome your comments on the rest of the updated WCAG 2.0 Public Working Draft by 29 June 2007. We have revised the guidelines and the accompanying documents substantially. A detailed summary of issues, revisions, and rationales for changes is at http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2007/05/change-summary.html . Please see http://www.w3.org/WAI/ for more information about the current review. Thank you, Loretta Guarino Reid, WCAG WG Co-Chair Gregg Vanderheiden, WCAG WG Co-Chair Michael Cooper, WCAG WG Staff Contact On behalf of the WCAG Working Group ---------------------------------------------------------- Comment 1: Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/20060622140230.A84D433201@kearny.w3.org (Issue ID: LC-884) Part of Item: Comment Type: general comment Comment (including rationale for proposed change): In general DSI would like to point out that some of the new terms and their definitions makes the language used in WCAG 2.0 difficult to understand, especially for foreigners and consequently difficult to translate into other languages. Proposed Change: Simplify the language and carefully explain new terms. ---------------------------- Response from Working Group: ---------------------------- We have reworked the entire document to make it shorter and easier to read. This includes: - Shortening the introduction - Moving much of the discussion out of the guidelines and puttin it in the Understanding WCAG 2.0 document - Shortening the conformance section and moving it after the guidelines - Writing simpler guidelines - Removing as many technical terms (jargon) as possible, replacing them with simpler language or their definitions - Removing the nesting of definitions where we could (i.e. definitions that pointed to other definitions) - Moving information about mapping between WCAG 1 and WCAG 2 to a separate support document (so it can be updated more easily) - Creating a Quick Reference documents that has just the Guidelines, success criteria and the techniques for meeting the success criteria. - Trying to word things in manners that are more understandable to different levels of Web expertise - Adding short names/handles on each success criterion to make them easier to find and compare etc. - Simplifying the conformance section - Using plainer language wherever possible (e.g. – use "Web page" instead of "Web Unit") - Eliminating several new or unfamiliar terms. (authored unit, etc.) - Making the whole document much shorter. ---------------------------------------------------------- Comment 2: Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/20060622140440.6080D33205@kearny.w3.org (Issue ID: LC-885) Part of Item: Comment Type: editorial Comment (including rationale for proposed change): Success criteria 1.1.1 is difficult to parse. When using the phrase "One of the following is true" to a criteria where several of the following can be true, if different types of non-text content are used, the criteria can be misinterpreted. DSI recommend that the phrasing of parallel logical conditions should be consistent across all success criteria. In 2.2.1 the phrase is used correctly. Proposed Change: We mean that the success criteria of 1.1.1 should be rephrased or split up into several success criteria. ---------------------------- Response from Working Group: ---------------------------- We have modified 1.1.1 as follows: 1.1.1 Non-text Content: All non-text content has a text alternative that presents equivalent information, except for the situations listed below. * Controls-Input: If non-text content is a control or accepts user input, then it has a name that describes its purpose. (See also Guideline 4.1 Maximize compatibility with current and future user agents, including assistive technologies ) * Media, Test, Sensory: If non-text content is multimedia , live audio-only or live video-only content, a test or exercise that must be presented in non-text format , or primarily intended to create a specific sensory experience , then text alternatives at least identify the non-text content with a descriptive text label. (For multimedia, see also Guideline 1.2 Provide synchronized alternatives for multimedia .) * CAPTCHA: If the purpose of non-text content is to confirm that content is being accessed by a person rather than a computer, then text alternatives that identify and describe the purpose of the non-text content are provided and alternative forms in different modalities are provided to accommodate different disabilities. * Decoration, Formatting, Invisible: If non-text content is pure decoration, or used only for visual formatting, or if it is not presented to users, then it is implemented such that it can be ignored by assistive technology ---------------------------------------------------------- Comment 3: Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/20060622140855.C78FC47BA1@mojo.w3.org (Issue ID: LC-886) Part of Item: Comment Type: substantive Comment (including rationale for proposed change): For deaf web users, there are two basic demands to be met to achieve full accessibility. - Sign Language is the native language for the deaf, the first language on which thinking and communication is based. Danish is a foreign language learnt by reading and writing. Therefore information provided in sign language will always be preferable to information provided in Danish text. (A new survey states that half of the deaf population has no School leaving exams in Danish, since they were not able to meet the language demands. Døves uddannelses- og arbejdsmarkedsforhold. Castberggaard 2006) - all information provided by sound, should also be provided visually. Sign language interpretation is mentioned in Level 3 Success Criteria for Guideline 1.2. in the WCAG 2.0 Guidelines. This placing does not ensure full accessibility to the deaf community, since EU documents only have to meet the demands on Level 2. Proposed Change: Broadband Network (ADSL) gives new opportunities to send multimedia, and the guidelines should therefore see that these new opportunities is utilized to achieve full accessibility. Sign language interpretation should at least be a Level 2 Success Criteria. ---------------------------- Response from Working Group: ---------------------------- The working group considered carefully the levels assigned to all the GL 1.2 success criteria. Delivery of sign language interpretation is more specialized, and difficult as compared to text captioning. Even with proper tools, a web author cannot do this without special training and skills, including the ability to translate into another language. Also some multimedia is fully usable at small size and marginal bandwidth setting and captions only marginally increase the demands. By comparison, sign language interpretation requires a relative large size, high resolution, and fast delivery rate. These aspects of sign language interpretation make the sucess criterion appropriate for Level AAA. ---------------------------------------------------------- Comment 4: Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/20060622140951.C8D2B47BA1@mojo.w3.org (Issue ID: LC-887) Part of Item: Comment Type: substantive Comment (including rationale for proposed change): Success Criteria 3.1.5: "When text requires reading ability more that the lower secondary education level, supplemental content is available…" should be placed at level 2 instead of level 3. EU and many national governments meet WCAG conformance at level 2, which means that people with cognitive disabilities will not be granted full accessibility if 3.1.5 remains on Level 3. In WCAG 1.O checkpoint 14.1 was a level 1 criteria: "Use the clearest and simplest language appropriate for a site\'s content". Proposed Change: Success Criteria 3.1.5: "When text requires reading ability more that the lower secondary education level, supplemental content is available…" should be placed at level 2 instead of level 3. EU and many national governments meet WCAG conformance at level 2, which means that people with cognitive disabilities will not be granted full accessibility if 3.1.5 remains on Level 3. In WCAG 1.O checkpoint 14.1 was a level 1 criteria: "Use the clearest and simplest language appropriate for a site\'s content". ---------------------------- Response from Working Group: ---------------------------- The working group agrees that writing as clearly and simply as possible is highly desirable, but could not find a way to test whether this had been achieved. The description of conformance levels in WCAG 2 has been rewritten to clarify the levels: The word "levels" does not mean that some success criteria are more important than others. Each success criterion in WCAG 2.0 is essential to some users, and the levels build upon each other. However, even content that conforms at AAA (triple-A) may not be fully accessible to every person with a disability. *In general, Level A success criteria achieve accessibility by supporting assistive technology while putting the fewest possible limits on presentation. Thus people with a wide range of disabilities using a wide range of assistive technologies, from voice input and eye-tracking devices to screen readers and screen magnifiers, are able to access content in different ways. In other words, Level A success criteria support the ability of both mainstream and specialized user agents to adapt content to formats that meet their users' needs. * The success criteria in Level AA provide additional support for assistive technology. At the same time, they also support direct access to content by the many people who use conventional user agents without assistive technology. In general, Level AA success criteria place more limits on visual presentation and other aspects of content than the success criteria in Level A. *Level AAA success criteria increase both direct access and access through assistive technology. They place tighter limits on both presentation and content." Because of the tighter limits that this success criterion places on content, we feel it is appropriate at level AAA. We have added new success criteria addressing scalability of text: Level AA: Visually rendered text can be resized without assistive technology up to 200 percent and down to 50 percent without loss of content or functionality. Level AA: Visually rendered text can be resized without assistive technology up to 200 percent and down to 50 percent without loss of content or functionality and in a way that does not require the user to scroll horizontally. In addition, we have added advisory techniques to improve the legibility of text: - Avoiding text that is both left and right justified. - Providing sufficient inter-line and inter-column spacing ---------------------------------------------------------- Comment 5: Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/20060622141132.4855E47BA1@mojo.w3.org (Issue ID: LC-888) Part of Item: Comment Type: substantive Comment (including rationale for proposed change): According to WCAG 2.0 conformance at level Triple-A (AAA) is met when all Level 1, all Level 2 and at least 50 % of the Level 3 success criteria that apply to the content types used are met. How are the 50 % selected – randomly? Proposed Change: We mean that it is important for WCAG to decide in advance which of the Level 3 criteria shall be met to obtain Triple-A conformance. ---------------------------- Response from Working Group: ---------------------------- We have changed the definition of Level AAA conformance so that all Level AAA Success Criteria that apply to the content types used must be satisfied. ---------------------------------------------------------- Comment 6: Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/20060622141353.8A56D47BA1@mojo.w3.org (Issue ID: LC-889) Part of Item: Comment Type: general comment Comment (including rationale for proposed change): WCAG 2.0 introduces the new term baseline in the conformance section which is difficult to understand. Proposed Change: The introduction of the conformance section in WCAG 2.0 should be provided with a clear explanation of what a baseline is and how it should be used. If the term baseline is not understood it might be misused. ---------------------------- Response from Working Group: ---------------------------- The conformance section of WCAG2 has been completely rewritten. The term "baseline" has been replaced by "accessibility-supported Web technologies". The issue of what it means to be an accessibility-supported Web technology is addressed in the section "Accessibility Support of Web Technologies" at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#accessibility-support .
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