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Fwd: Your comments on WCAG 2.0 Last Call Draft of April 2006

From: Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org>
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 11:46:13 -0400
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>Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 07:45:38 -0700
>From: "Loretta Guarino Reid" <lorettaguarino@google.com>
>To: "Lisa Seeman" <lisa@ubaccess.com>,
>         "Jonathan Chetwynd" <j.chetwynd@btinternet.com>,
>         "Andy Heath, Axelrod Research and Computing" 
> <AndyHeath@axelrod.plus.com>,
>         "Andy Heath" <a.k.heath@shu.ac.uk>,
>         "Gez Lemon" <gez.lemon@gmail.com>,
>         "Roberto Scano" <rscano@iwa-italy.org>,
>         "Gian Sampson-Wild" <gian@tkh.com.au>,
>         "Dr. Andy Judson" <ajudson@computing.dundee.ac.uk>,
>         "Yvette Hoitink" <y.p.hoitink@heritas.nl>,
>         "Marc Walraven" <marc.walraven@ascii.be>,
>         "Fred Heddell MBE, Inclusion International" 
> <info@inclusion-international.org>,
>         "Mrs. Zoe Apostolopoulou e-ISOTIS" <zoe@e-isotis.org>,
>         "Andrew Arch" <Andrew.Arch@visionaustralia.org>,
>         "Sofia Celic" <Sofia.Celic@visionaustralia.org>,
>         "Keith Smith, BILD (British Institute of Learning Disabilities)" 
> <k.smith@bild.org.uk>,
>         "Peter Rainger" <peter.rainger@googlemail.com>,
>         "Erlend Øverby" <erland.overby@hypatia.no>,
>         "William Loughborough" <love26@gorge.net>,
>         "Geert Freyhoff Inclusion Europe" <G.Freyhoff@inclusion-europe.org>,
>         "Mencap Accessibility Unit" <accessibility@mencap.org.uk>,
>         "Antonia Hyde, United Response" <Antonia.Hyde@unitedresponse-org.uk>,
>         "Diane Lightfoot, United Response" 
> <Diane.Lightfoot@unitedresponse-org.uk>,
>         "Jo Kidd, The Skillnet Group" <jo.kidd@skillnetgroup.co.uk>,
>         "Dan Edney The Skillnet Group" <dan.edney@skillnetgroup.co.uk>,
>         "United Response (UR) " <info@unitedresponse.org.uk>,
>         "Liddy Nevile, La Trobe University" <liddy@sunriseresearch.org>,
>         "Andy Minnion, The Rix Centre" <andy.minnion@rixcentre.org>,
>         "Simon Evans, The Rix Centre" <simon.evans@rixcentre.org>,
>         "Jim Byrne GAWDS" <jim@glasgowwestend.co.uk>,
>         "Jim Byrne GAWDS" <jim.byrne@gawds.org>,
>         "Mel Pedley" <mel.pedley@gawds.org>,
>         "Caroline Lambie, Mencap Web Communications Manager" 
> <caroline.lambie@mencap.org.uk>,
>         "Andrew Holman, Inspired Services" <info@inspiredservices.co.uk>,
>         "Robert Hubbert, Ubisan" <info@ubisan.com>,
>         "John Nissen, Cloudworld Ltd " <jn@cloudworld.co.uk>,
>         "Roger Hudson" <rhudson@usability.com.au>,
>         "Janine Ness" <info@idlimited.co.uk>,
>         "Zoe Porter, Valuing People" <Zoe.Porter@dh.gsi.gov.uk>,
>         "Sue Carmichael, Valuing People" <Sue.Carmichael@dh.gsi.gov.uk>,
>         "Geoff Stead" <info@ctad.co.uk>,
>         "David Sloan, Digital Media Access Group" 
> <dsloan@computing.dundee.ac.uk>,
>         "Simon Cramp" <simon.cramp@mencap.org.uk>,
>         "Ann Fergusson" <ann.fergusson@northampton.ac.uk>,
>         "Dr. Robin Boast " <rbb10@cam.ac.uk>,
>         "Neel Shearer, CALL (Communication Aids for Language and 
> Learning) Centre" <neel.shearer@education.ed.ac.uk>,
>         "Paul Brown, The Scottish Disability Team " <p.d.brown@dundee.ac.uk>,
>         "Jim Ley" <jim@jibbering.com>, TechDis <helpdesk@techdis.ac.uk>,
>         "Katarina Mühlenbock, Dart" <katarina.muhlenbock@vgregion.se>,
>         "Emmanuelle Gutiérrez y Restrepo, Sidar " <coordina@sidar.org>,
>         "Emmanuelle Gutiérrez y Restrepo, Sidar" <emmanuelle@sidar.org>,
>         "Mats Lundälv Dart" <mats.lundalv@vgregion.se>,
>         "Sari Follansbee" <sari@jason.org>,
>         "Sally Paveley, Advisory Unit" <sallyp@advisory-unit.org.uk>
>Subject: Fwd: Your comments on WCAG 2.0 Last Call Draft of April 2006
>Cc: "Gregg Vanderheiden" <gv@trace.wisc.edu>,
>         "Loretta Guarino Reid" <lorettaguarino@google.com>,
>         "Michael Cooper" <cooper@w3.org>, "Judy Brewer" <jbrewer@w3.org>
>During the public comment period for the April 2006 Last Call Draft of
>WCAG 2.0, we received a formal objection about lack of support for
>people with cognitive, learning, and language disabilities [1]. Since
>then, we have made a number of changes in response to your objection
>and to other comments that we received, and we have returned WCAG 2.0
>to Public Working Draft status.
>The response to the formal objection was sent to the person who
>submitted the comment, Lisa Seeman, and posted to the public comments
>mailing list [2]. However, we would like to be sure that others who
>signed the formal objection are also aware of the response from the
>working group, and that you have an opportunity to review the new
>draft of WCAG 2.0, and reply to our responses or submit additional
>comments as you wish. Please send your replies or comments by 29 June
>Although we have attempted to find email addresses for the people who
>submitted this comment, we have not always been successful. Please
>forward this message to others on the list if you have their
>Thank you,
>Loretta Guarino Reid, WCAG WG Co-Chair
>Gregg Vanderheiden, WCAG WG Co-Chair
>Michael Cooper, WCAG WG Staff Contact
>On behalf of the WCAG Working Group
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>From: Loretta Guarino Reid <lorettaguarino@google.com>
>Date: May 17, 2007 4:39 PM
>Subject: Your comments on WCAG 2.0 Last Call Draft of April 2006 (1 of 6)
>To: Lisa Seeman <lisa@ubaccess.com>
>Cc: public-comments-WCAG20@w3.org
>Dear Lisa and colleagues,
>Thank you for your comments on the 2006 Last Call Working Draft of the
>Web Content Accessibility Guidelines 2.0 (WCAG 2.0
>http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-WCAG20-20060427/). We appreciate the
>interest that you have taken in these guidelines.
>We apologize for the delay in getting back to you. We received many
>constructive comments, and sometimes addressing one issue would cause
>us to revise wording covered by an earlier issue. We therefore waited
>until all comments had been addressed before responding to commenters.
>This message contains the comments you submitted and the resolutions
>to your comments. Each comment includes a link to the archived copy of
>your original comment on
>http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/, and may
>also include links to the relevant changes in the updated WCAG 2.0
>Public Working Draft at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/.
>PLEASE REVIEW the decisions  for the following comments and reply to
>us by 7 June at public-comments-WCAG20@w3.org to say whether you are
>satisfied with the decision taken. Note that this list is publicly
>We also welcome your comments on the rest of the updated WCAG 2.0
>Public Working Draft by 29 June 2007. We have revised the guidelines
>and the accompanying documents substantially. A detailed summary of
>issues, revisions, and rationales for changes is at
>http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2007/05/change-summary.html . Please see
>http://www.w3.org/WAI/ for more information about the current review.
>Thank you,
>Loretta Guarino Reid, WCAG WG Co-Chair
>Gregg Vanderheiden, WCAG WG Co-Chair
>Michael Cooper, WCAG WG Staff Contact
>On behalf of the WCAG Working Group
>Comment 1:
>Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/10be01c69450$aa336fb0$6400a8c0@IBM4CD7E5EACA1
>(Issue ID: LC-1036)
>WCAG 2.0 claims to define and address the requirements for making Web
>content accessible to those with learning difficulties, cognitive
>limitations and others. We object to that claim.
>Specifically, the success criteria requirements for making content
>understandable largly ignore the needs of people with learning
>difficulties and cognitive limitations.  Please note that there are
>guidelines published by other groups that  will make content much more
>accessible to these users. However, with the WCAG claim to address
>learning difficulties and cognitive limitations, people will not know
>that they need to look further.
>We would like to see continued work in this field and a statement in
>the WCAG 2.0 abstract and introduction modifying the claim that they
>currently address accessibility for  learning disabilities.
>Specifically, we recommend removing learning difficulties and
>cognitive limitations  from the list of supported disabilities. A
>sentence may be added later in the abstract that  "these guidelines
>may also provide some benefits for  people with learning difficulties
>and cognitive limitations".  We would then like to see a statement of
>intent such as: "the working group intends to build additional success
>criteria to address accessibility for learning disabilities and
>cognitive limitations."
>All the best,
>Lisa Seeman, www.ubaccess.com
>Jonathan Chetwynd,  Accessible Solutions
>Andy Heath, Axelrod Research and Computing
>Gez Lemon, www.juicystudio.com
>Roberto Scano
>Gian Sampson-Wild
>Dr. Andy Judson
>Yvette Hoitink
>Marc Walraven
>Fred Heddell MBE, Inclusion International
>Mrs. Zoe Apostolopoulou e-ISOTIS
>Andrew Arch Vision Australia
>Sofia Celic  Vision Australia
>Keith Smith, BILD (British Institute of Learning Disabilities)
>Peter Rainger
>Erlend Øverby
>William Loughborough
>Geert Freyhoff  Inclusion Europe
>Better Days advocacy group
>Mencap Accessibility Unit
>The Rix Centre (for Innovation and  Learning disability)
>Antonia Hyde, United Response
>Diane Lightfoot, United Response
>Jo Kidd, The Skillnet Group
>Dan Edney The Skillnet Group
>United Response (UR)
>Liddy Nevile, La Trobe University
>Andy Minnion, The Rix Centre
>Simon Evans, The Rix Centre
>Jim Byrne,   GAWDS
>Mel Pedley
>Pamela E Berman
>Caroline Lambie,  Mencap Web  Communications Manager.
>Andrew Holman,  Inspired Services
>Robert Hubbert, Ubisan
>John Nissen, Cloudworld Ltd
>Paul Williams
>Roger Hudson
>Janine Ness
>Zoe Porter, Valuing People
>Sue Carmichael, Valuing People
>Geoff Stead
>David Sloan, Digital Media Access Group
>Simon Cramp
>Ann Fergusson
>Dr. Robin Boast
>Matthew Smith
>Neel Shearer, CALL (Communication Aids for Language and Learning) Centre
>Paul Brown, The Scottish Disability Team
>Jim Ley
>Sally Cooper
>Katarina Mühlenbock,  Dart
>Emmanuelle Gutiérrez y Restrepo, Sidar
>Mats Lundälv  Dart
>Sari Follansbee
>Sarah Riley
>Sally Paveley,  Advisory Unit
>Response from Working Group:
>We have added language to the Introduction, the Conformance section,
>and the Quick Reference to highlight the fact that WCAG 2.0 only
>addresses some of the needs of people with cognitive, learning, and
>language disabilities, and to call out the need for more research in
>this area. WAI is exploring ways in which to support and encourage
>work in this important area.
>See WCAG 2.0:
>  http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#abstract
>  http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#intro
>  http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#overview-levels
>Quick Reference:
>  http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/quickref/20070517/#intro
>We have added some best practices for cognitive, learning, and
>language disabilities as advisory techniques, and this draft contains
>three new success criteria in this area.
>New success criteria:
>SC 2.4.9 Where content is organized into sections, the sections are
>indicated with headings.
>SC 3.3.4 Labels or instructions are provided when content requires user input
>SC 3.3.6 For forms that require the user to submit information, at
>least one of the following is true:
>   1. Reversible: Transactions are reversible.
>   2. Checked: Submitted data is checked for input errors before going
>on to the next step in the process.
>   3. Confirmed: A mechanism is available for reviewing, confirming,
>and correcting information before finalizing the transaction.
>Advisory techniques:

Judy Brewer    +1.617.258.9741    http://www.w3.org/WAI
Director, Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)
MIT/CSAIL Building 32-G526
32 Vassar Street
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