RE: We have until tomorrow to object - Fwd: RE: Supplementary document for WCAG 2.1

I’m afraid I’ve always believed that a single non-normative supplemental document was the correct way to go. I very much like David McDonald’s proposal of being able to create disability specific views of the document – particularly if one proposal/guideline can be in multiple views e.g. for something that is a benefit for LV and COGA users. So I’ve +1-ed for that.

The last thing we want if for there to be even more W3C documents that people outside W3C have to discover. I’m also not a fan of trying to link recommendations and guidelines to specific disabilities or even categories of disabilities. It seems to be the wrong way to go.

Best regards

Mike

From: lisa.seeman [mailto:lisa.seeman@zoho.com]
Sent: 24 May 2017 11:13
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Subject: We have until tomorrow to object - Fwd: RE: Supplementary document for WCAG 2.1

This is a call for consensus in WCAg for the supplement.

two potential issues

They want one document for all the supplemental guidance from all the task forces. That means there would not be one document for coga.
I have a problem with this because we were hoping to make a document that would be useful for policy makers and web authors to use to include people with cognitive disabilities in some scenarios. The other task forces are not looking for this as a use case for the document.

I therefore think we will have to argue every step of the way for how the document is structured and whether we should try to make things testable etc. We will lose our main reason for doing it this, if it is dominated by calls for extra research or other usecases.

also it will be non-normative. we might have to live with this.

DO you agree or have other concerns? if so you have until tomorrow 12:00pm Boston time to let wcag know. If you do not object  it will be one, non normative, document.

All the best

Lisa Seeman

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From: Andrew Kirkpatrick<mailto:akirkpat@adobe.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 12:51 PM
To: WCAG<mailto:w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Subject: CFC: Supplementary document for WCAG 2.1
Importance: High

Resending with the “high priority” flag per our process…

Call For Consensus — ends Thursday May 25rd at 12:00pm Boston time.

The Working Group has discussed the idea of providing additional guidance for accessibility beyond what is able to be included within WCAG 2.1. The idea is that success criteria proposals that cannot reach consensus or that there is insufficient time to review still have valuable information that might be able to be published for use. This idea was surveyed (https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2002%2F09%2Fwbs%2F35422%2FWCAG21_supp%2Fresults&data=02%7C01%7C%7C0e1bcac07c814137cfe008d4a1f37ca4%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636311514529786507&sdata=Z09nKmrz3%2BdDRAlSQIgS6EnTF3tnyKnkhx6IU63M3ds%3D&reserved=0) and discussed on the call (https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2017%2F05%2F23-ag-minutes.html%23item01&data=02%7C01%7C%7C0e1bcac07c814137cfe008d4a1f37ca4%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636311514529786507&sdata=fuNXCihUvTIK85l38EKARZUd1nbx6vv6mPMVhkv2TNg%3D&reserved=0) and a resolution received consensus:

RESOLUTION: the working group has agreed to publisihing supplemental guidance in 1 document that is non-normative

If you have concerns about this proposed consensus position that have not been discussed already and feel that those concerns result in you “not being able to live with” this decision, please let the group know before the CfC deadline.

Thanks,
AWK

Andrew Kirkpatrick
Group Product Manager, Standards and Accessibility
Adobe

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AWK

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