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Agenda, 8 May 2003 WS Desc telcon

From: Jonathan Marsh <jmarsh@microsoft.com>
Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 12:33:27 -0700
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0.  Dial in information (members only) [.1]:

See the public WG page [.2] for pointers to current documents and other
information, and the private page [.3] for administrative matters.

If you have additions to the agenda, please email them to the WG list
before the start of the telcon.

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003May/0015.html
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/
[.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/admin

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Agenda

1.  Assign scribe.  Lucky minute taker for this week is:
      Jeff Mischkinsky (fallbacks Umit Yalcinalp, Steve White,
      Erik Ackerman, Lily Liu, Tom Jordahl, Jean-Jacques Moreau, 
      Don Mullen, Adi Sakala, Steve Lind)

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2.  Approval of revised minutes of May 1 telcon [.1]. 
    Unrevised minutes [.2], corrections at [.3], [.4]

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0028.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0005.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0010.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0011.html

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3.  Review of Action items [.1].
?        2003-01-21: Roberto and gudge to create a branch and work up
                      a binding proposal based on referencing type
                      systems directly from operation components.
                      (Umit's example, Sanjiva's example, WSDL 1.1
                      example, and others.)
?         2003-03-04: Editors to discuss markup for testable assertions
                      in the spec and come back with a strategy.
PENDING   2003-03-04: Jonathan to recruit a QA contact for the WG.
PENDING   2003-03-04: Jonathan to recruit a test contact for the WG.
PENDING   2003-03-13: Editors will find part 2 issues to dispatch
                      easily next telcon.
?         2003-03-13: Don will write a proposal for annotating schema
                      with part information.
?         2003-03-27: Philippe write up a proposal for embedding bidary
                      data types in schema
?         2003-04-10: Sanjiva to rewrite his proposal on bindings.
?         2003-04-17: Sanjiva to take the lead on coordinating the 
                      meeting on bindings the day before the F2F
DONE [.2] 2003-04-24: Jacek to look at OWL and report back to the 
                      working group.
?         2003-05-01: Roberto to write up uniqueness problem in Schema
PENDING   2003-05-01: Marsh to summarize WS Desc interest for XML Schema

                      subset to XML Schema WG
?         2003-05-01: Editors to clarify that recursive interface
                      inheritance is disallowed.

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/#actions
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0015.html

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4.  Administrivia
  a. May FTF [.1] - second draft agenda [.2].
  b. July FTF [.3]
  c. Sept FTF [.4] - tentatively 22-24 (Mon-Wed).
  d. TF status
  e. OWL last call review [.5]  Jacek's review recommends using OWL Lite
[.6]

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2003/ws/desc/3/05/f2fMayLogistics.htm
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0029.html
[.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/3/05/f2fJulyLogistics.htm
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Apr/0049.html
[.5] http://www.w3.org/TR/owl-features/
[.6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0015.html

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5.  New Issues.  Merged issues list [.1].
  - Proposal for advertising QoS features of a Web service in WSDL [.2]
    Status of this "submission"?  IP?  QoS is out of scope.  Relates to
    properties and features.
  - Kevin: Part 1 clarifications [.3]

[.1]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.html 
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0020.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Apr/0166.html

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6.  Proposal for restricting a service to a single interface [.1]. 
  - Related issue (?) dynamic discovery of a service [.2].

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Apr/0069.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0004.html

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7.  R085 Describing endpoint references.  [.1]

[.1]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Apr/att-0088/R085-20
03-04-22.html

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8.  Multiple endpoints with the same interface [.1]

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Apr/0052.html

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9. Issue 2: SOAPAction has been deprecated, as of SOAP 1.2 [.1].
    Jean-Jacques proposal at [.2].
    Jacek's addendum at [.3].
    Proposal from Glen at [.4], fix from JJM at [.5].  Undecided on
      whether to allow WSDL 1.1 syntax, PnF syntax, or both.
    Waiting for guidelines from PnF TF.
    Alternate (?) proposal from JJM to allow arbitrary setting of HTTP
      Header fields [.6]
    Is "FnP for HTTP binding and SOAP HTTP binding" [.7] a friendly
      Amendment or an alternative proposal?

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x2 
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Sep/0050.html 
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Sep/0056.html 
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Apr/0010.html 
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Apr/0022.html 
[.6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Apr/0028.html
[.7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Apr/0025.html

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10. BindingType proposal from Kevin [.1].  Updated proposal at [.2].
    Sanjiva's alternative at [.3].
    Awaiting updated proposal from Sanjiva.

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Aug/0009.html 
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0068.html 
[.3]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Jul/att-0117/01-bind
ings-2002-07-24.html 

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12. Issues 53-55 [.1]
  - Philippe's proposal for HTTP binding [.2].
    Generally accepted.  Philippe will continue to polish the proposal
for
    discussion at the FTF, after which we expect to roll it into the
spec.

[.1]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.html#
x53 
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Mar/0068.html 

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13. Moving MIME Type Information to the Interface [.1]
    Awaiting proposal from Philippe.

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Mar/0028.html 

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14. Removing message.  Umit's posting on the value of part as an
    abstract concept of WSDL [.1].  Sanjiva asks for more rationale
    as to why his proposal did not fly [.2], and suggests that
    inheritance and overloading go together [.3].  Roberto's original
    proposal at [.4].  Direction suggested by Dale [.5]

    Postponed until we have a little better idea of what our bindings
    will look like.  Gudge's responses [.6, .7] to Umit's examples [.8]

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Feb/0011.html 
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Feb/0020.html 
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Feb/0014.html 
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Nov/0035.html 
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Dec/0040.html 
[.6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Mar/0006.html
[.7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Mar/0013.html 
[.8] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Feb/0005.html 

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15. Patterns.
 a. Waiting on framing of the issue by the Patterns task force.  b.
Soliciting rationale for each pattern [.1]

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Mar/0016.html 
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