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RE: Agenda of TAG teleconference 14 February 2005

From: David Orchard <dorchard@bea.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 11:55:30 -0800
Message-ID: <32D5845A745BFB429CBDBADA57CD41AF0D9475B4@ussjex01.amer.bea.com>
To: "David Ezell" <David_E3@VERIFONE.com>, <Vincent.Quint@inrialpes.fr>
Cc: <www-tag@w3.org>, <w3c-xml-schema-wg@w3.org>

Hi David,

I'd like to offer up a list of specific extensibility and versioning scenarios.  I've posted these at

http://www.pacificspirit.com/blog/2005/02/14/scenarios_for_evaluating_extvers_in_various_schema_languages

This is a distillation of scenarios that I've been using in the past when examining XML Schema, RDF/OWL, and RelaxNG for extensibility and versioning.  

I think this would be most applicable as refinements/extensions/specializations for one of the use cases, perhaps the health-care use case.  

I plan on continuing to use these in the TAG finding on ext/vers.

Cheers,
Dave

> -----Original Message-----
> From: www-tag-request@w3.org [mailto:www-tag-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of
> David Ezell
> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 11:05 AM
> To: Vincent.Quint@inrialpes.fr
> Cc: www-tag@w3.org; w3c-xml-schema-wg@w3.org
> Subject: RE: Agenda of TAG teleconference 14 February 2005
> 
> 
> Vincent:
> Thanks for the agenda.  We're looking forward to the call.
> 
> The schema WG has worked for some time now on the versioning,
> and most recently we've been attempting for formalize use
> cases against versioning of XML languages.  We have a document
> that is a work in progress:  neither the content nor the format
> yet has the offical endorsement of the schema WG.
> 
> The original post is at the following URL, though it is not in
> public space.  This document will not change over time and can
> be used for review before Monday's telcon if you don't want to
> be surprised with revisions:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xml-schema-wg/2005Feb/att-
> 0009/xsd-versioning-use-cases.html
> 
> The following URL currently points to a copy of the document,
> but this one will be updated over time, and it is in public space:
> http://www.w3.org/XML/2005/xsd-versioning-use-cases.html
> 
> The "health-care specialization" use case is one that has
> had most recent attention:  the others are still fragmented
> and under construction.  One thing to note is that as far as
> we've been able to manage, these use cases represent real problems
> that people who define and use XML languages face.
> 
> This document is not yet polished, but at least people will have
> an opportunity to see some use cases and how we're writing them before
> Monday.  The current version uses "diff markup" so many sections are
> rendered with a red background.  That should change soon.
> 
> We expect to publish a second document addressing proposed mechanisms
> to support versioning, and also addressing some terminological
> recommendations.
> While it should be published Monday, it will not be in time for review
> before the telcon.
> 
> Best regards,
> David Ezell, chair
> XML Schema WG
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vincent Quint [mailto:Vincent.Quint@inrialpes.fr]
> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 1:08 PM
> To: www-tag@w3.org; David Ezell; w3c-xml-schema-wg@w3.org
> Cc: Vincent.Quint@inrialpes.fr
> Subject: Agenda of TAG teleconference 14 February 2005
> 
> 
> A draft agenda for the 14 February TAG / XML Schema teleconference
> is available :
> 
>     http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2005/02/14-agenda.html
> 
> (Text version below)
> Feel free to make suggestions for additional topics.
> 
> Vincent.
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -----------------------------------------
> 
>     W3C | TAG[1] | Previous: 7 February 2005[2] | Next: 21 February 2005
> 
> Agenda of 14 February 2005 TAG teleconference
> 
>     Nearby: Teleconference details[3] - issues list[4] (handling new
>     issues[5]) - www-tag archive[6]
> 
>   1. Administrative (15 min)
> 
>     1.1 Teleconferences
> 
>        1. Roll call
>           Regrets: Paul Cotton, Henry Thompson, Stuart Williams
>           Scribe: Noah and Norm
>           Accept this agenda?
>        2. Date of Next telcon: propose Monday 21 February 2005
>           Recruit Scribe.
>           Future Regrets:
>              *  1. 21 Feb: Paul Cotton
>              *  2. 28 Feb (TAG F2F): Paul Cotton (at risk)
>        3. Meeting Records
>           IRC log[7] of 7 February
>           Accept minutes (Ed?)
>        4. TAG Weekly Teleconference Schedule
>           See email from DanC[8], results[9] of questionnaire
> 
>     1.2 W3C Technical Plenary
> 
>        1. TAG Contribution to Technical Plenary Day
>           Extensibility and Versioning Panel Session (see draft TP
> Agenda[10]
>           for details)
>           Panelists: Dan, Noah, DaveO, Henry, Mark Baker (CDF), to be
>           confirmed: Hoylen Sue (XML Schema), Chris Lilley (TAG/SVG), Tim
>           Boland (QA-WG)
>           Where XML is Going Panel Session, Noah is on the panel
>           Review other proposed sessions (see draft TP agenda[11])
>           Lightning talks[12]
>        2. TAG F2F Monday am 28th February 2005
>           Need a meeting page (Vincent)
>           Need an Agenda (Vincent)
>        3. TAG Liaisons
>           Negotiated slots - see tracking table[13] - Confirm slots with
>           "TAG??"
>           No meeting[14] with QA-WG
>           No reply from CDF (chair is away)
> 
>   2. Technical (75 min)
> 
>     Reminder: This is a joint telcon with XML Schema (logistics[15]).
> Unless
>     anyone feel there is any other urgent matter, the technical discussion
>     should focus on the topic agreed with XML Schema:
> 
>     Extensibility and Versioning (XMLVersioning-41[16])
> 
>     Pre-Reading Resources:
> 
>        *  Most recent draft findings (DaveO's email[17], part1[18] and
>           part2[19])
>        *  Noah's Analysis[20]
>        *  Dan's review[21] of the draft finding
> 
>     --------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>     Vincent Quint for TAG
>     $Revision: 1.1 $ of $Date: 10-02-2005 - 17:57$
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> [1] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/
> [2] http://www.w3.org/2005/02/07-tagmem-irc
> [3] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/#remote
> [4] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html
> [5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Jul/0054.html
> [6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/
> [7] /2005/02/07-tagmem-irc
> [8] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2005Feb/0008.html
> [9] /2002/09/wbs/34270/telweekly/results
> [10] http://www.w3.org/2005/03/02-TechPlenAgenda.html
> [11] http://www.w3.org/2005/03/02-TechPlenAgenda.html
> [12] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2005Feb/0023.html
> [13] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2005/01/TechnicalPlenaryLiaisons.html
> [14] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2005Feb/0018.html
> [15] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2005Feb/0016.html
> [16] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues#XMLVersioning-41
> [17] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2004Nov/0071.html
> [18]
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2004Nov/att-0071/versioning-
> part1.html
> [19]
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2004Nov/att-0071/versioning-
> part2.html
> [20] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2004Aug/0010.html
> [21] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2005Jan/0018.html
> 
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