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Re: an action item :)

From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 15:41:33 -0400 (EDT)
To: Emmanuelle Gutiérrez y Restrepo <emmanuelle@teleline.es>
cc: <apembert@erols.com>, Lisa Seeman <lseeman@globalformats.com>, <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0107161533370.25300-100000@tux.w3.org>
Clearly it is possible to control some environmental circumstances. Equally
clearly, not all, and for many reasons. I t would be possible to moe the
kiosk to the library where it is quiet, but if it is providing information
about the trains then the most useful place to have it is at the station,
noise and all, out in the open where people can use it with a minimum of

The point was really whether or not we should mention scenarios which are the
same as accessibility requirements.

Actually I think it would be useful to do this the other way around,
explaining that it is possible to imagine some disability-related scenarios
in terms of more familiar environments. For example, it is difficult to read
a lot of text on a road sign you are driving past - if there isn't an
illustration to give you an idea of whether it is worth reading, most people
simply drive straight past. Or the idea that trying to use a cell phone to
find information or services on the web is a little like having a highly
magnified screen, set to high contrast, and having a simplified keyboard.

But except as a way of helping people to understand what the requirements are
for accessibility, I prefer to see these additional benefits in material
produced by the Education / Outreach group to promote the guidelines, rather
than in the guidelines themselves.


Charles McCN

On Mon, 16 Jul 2001, Emmanuelle Gutiérrez y Restrepo wrote:


  In fact, the question that I tried to highlight is that, applying the usual
  rules covers the external factors. That which can suppose future uses of
  Internet under non usual conditions, at the moment.


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Anne Pemberton" <apembert@erols.com>

  > Emmanuelle,
  > Handicapping environmental conditions are controllable at the user level
  > more efficiently than at the page author level. If a kiosk is located in
  > noisy location, it should be provided with a personal hearing device
  > (movable speaker, earphones, etc.)  There is nothing the page author can
  > to improve the situation other than comply with the usual guidelines.  If
  > the page or kiosk interface is provided in visible print, it should also
  > provide it in audio and in graphics. What else would you have a page
  > do?
[snip]  >
  > But the most effective answer to temporarily disabling environmental
  > conditions is either to modify the hardware to accommodate if it is a
  > regularly-occuring condition, or wait and use the Internet/affected sites,
  > at a more appropriate time and place.
  > Anne
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