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Agenda for XML Core WG telcon of 2008 March 12

From: Grosso, Paul <pgrosso@ptc.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:24:38 -0400
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We have an XML Core WG phone call scheduled for Wednesday, 
March 12, from
          08:00-09:00 Pacific time aka
          11:00-12:00 Eastern time aka
          15:00-16:00 UTC
          15:00-16:00 in Ireland and the UK         !!!!!!!
          16:00-17:00 in middle (most of) Europe    !!!!!!!
on the Zakim W3C Bridge, +1 617 761 6200, passcode 9652#.
We also use IRC channel #xmlcore on irc.w3.org:6665 .

See the XML Core group page [1] for pointers to current documents
and other information.  If you have additions to the agenda, please
email them to the WG list before the start of the telcon.

Please also review our group page's task list [2] for accuracy and
completeness and be prepared to amend if necessary and accept it
at the beginning of the call.

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NOTE: This telcon (and the upcoming telcon of March 26)
occur one hour earlier than usual local time for partipants 
in the UK and Europe due to a early switch to DST 
on the part of those in North America.

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Agenda
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1. Accepting the minutes from the last telcon [3] and
   the current task status [2] (have any questions, comments,
   or corrections ready by the beginning of the call).


2. Miscellaneous administrivia and document reviews.

CURIEs et al.
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The XHTML2 Working Group plans to take CURIE Syntax 1.0 at:
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/ED-curie-20080122/ to Last Call.

Both Norm and Henry have reviewed it on the Tag list:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2008Feb/0050
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2008Feb/0053

XML would have to change for CURIEs to do what they want to do.

The key issue with CURIEs is the restriction on name start
characters for the value of ids (which is now an NCName).

Henry asks us to consider changing the type of an id attribute
from NCName to NMTOKEN.

Norm sent his thoughts on redefining QNames at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2008Feb/0030

John suggests we shouldn't change QNames--which are for element
and attribute names--but perhaps come up with another term--or
just use the term CURIEs--for this new concept.

Philippe says that sparql has already come up with a CURIE-like 
concept (and it is already a Rec):
http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-rdf-sparql-query-20080115/#QSynIRI

Henry has done some research on the use of non-names for ids
on the web.

Norm blogged on a possible XML 2.0:
http://norman.walsh.name/2008/02/20/xml20

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October Technical Plenary
-------------------------
The next Technical Plenary is scheduled for October in Cannes:
http://www.w3.org/2008/10/TPAC/Overview.html
We need to decide if we wish to meet there.

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Element Traversal Specification Review
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We have been asked to review 
Element Traversal Specification (Web API WG)
http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-ElementTraversal-20080303/

John reviewed it at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2008Mar/0003
and found no issues for us.  Philippe concurred at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2008Mar/0005


3.  C14N 

The C14N 1.1 PR has been published:
http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/PR-xml-c14n11-20080129/

Known Issues with Canonical XML 1.0 (C14N/1.0) WG Note 
has been published at
http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/NOTE-C14N-issues-20061220/

Using XML Digital Signatures in the 2006 XML Environment 
WG Note has been published at
http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/NOTE-DSig-usage-20061220/


4.  XML 1.0 5th Edition

The XML 1.0 5th Edition PER has been published at
 http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/PER-xml-20080205/


5.  XML 1.0/1.1 4th/2nd Editions published 2006 August 16:

 Extensible Markup Language (XML) 1.0 (Fourth Edition)
 http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml-20060816

 Extensible Markup Language (XML) 1.1 (Second Edition)
 http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml11-20060816

Henry/Richard discussed the test suite issues raised by Frans Englich:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-testsuite/2007Mar/ 

These need to be resolved. 

Richard reports that the 2005 issue has been resolved in the 
latest draft. 

The one from 2006, character references with numbers with 
dozens of digits, may not be. 

ACTION: Richard to construct a test case for these issues.

At some point in the future (e.g., six months after XML 1.0 5th
Edition is a Recommendation) we might consider deprecating XML 1.1.


6. Namespaces in XML 1.0/1.1 2nd Editions published 2006 August 16:

 Namespaces in XML 1.0 (Second Edition)
 http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml-names-20060816

 Namespaces in XML 1.1 (Second Edition)
 http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml-names11-20060816

Richard has recorded Anne's issue/proposed resolution at
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2001/05/proposed-xml-names-errata#NPE27

ACTION to Richard:  Look into Anne's (two) comments at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-names-editor/2007Oct/

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We discussed processing an erratum to NS 1.0 that adds the 
ability to undeclare a namespace prefix in NS 1.0.

We could probably make NS 1.0 a copy of NS 1.1 with appropriate
minor changes.


7.  LEIRIs

Martin's latest IRI draft (defining LEIRIs in section 7) is at 
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-duerst-iri-bis-02.txt

Martin's latest email is at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2007Dec/0042

Paul's summary of what comes next spec-by-spec is at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2007Dec/0045


8.  XML Base 2nd Edition 2nd PER

The (Second Edition) XML Base PER has been published at
http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/PER-xmlbase-20061220/ 

Richard has produced a PER-ready draft of XML Base at:
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2006/09/xmlbase-2e/

We will plan to publish this as a second PER in the March
timeframe with the understanding it can't go to Rec until 
the IRI RFC is republished.

ACTION to Richard:  Add a para to the SOTD explaining that we
will await for the 3987bis to become an RFC before going to Rec.

ACTION to Richard: Update refs (to XML and NS) to be undated.

Paul drafted a transition request for XML Base 2nd Ed (2nd) PER at:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2008Feb/0049

ACTION to Henry, Philippe, and Richard:  Review Paul's draft
transition request for XML Base.

We will plan for the WG to approve to go to PER on our next
telcon on March 12.

After the transition is approved, Paul makes a pub request
and Henry writes and sends out an announcement.


9.  XLink update.

The XLink CR was published at
http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/CR-xlink11-20060328/ 

The latest almost PR-ready XLink draft is at
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2004/xmlcore/xlink11/

Norm posted a DoC at
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2006/10/xlink11-doc.html

Paul wrote a SECOND draft PR request at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2006Dec/0059

We decided the next step would be another LC.

LEIRI reference:
 Section 5.4: 

 replace para starting:

  The value of the href attribute is an XML resource identifer...

 with:

  The value of the href attribute is a LEIRI [ref].

 and then delete subsection 5.4.1 but move the para about 
 relative references up into 5.4.

ACTION to Norm:  Suggest any other appropriate changes to XLink 1.1.

ACTION to Norm:  Produce diff/review version.

ACTION to Norm: Produce a LC-ready draft of XLink 1.1 with 
a reference to the IRI RFC for LEIRIs.

John suggests we have two levels of conformance at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2008Feb/0044


10.  XInclude 3rd Edition

XInclude 2nd Edition is at:
http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xinclude-20061115

LEIRI-related changes for the 3rd Edition:

3.1, href attribute is a LEIRI

See also 4.1.1 (details TBD) which can't reference XML 1.1
since we don't define XML Resource Identifiers in XML 1.1.
Just replace that para with the "They are LEIRIs" para.

See also
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2007Dec/0007
for more details on the necessary changes.

ACTION to Daniel: Produce a PER-ready draft of XInclude 3rd Ed
with appropriate references to the IRI RFC for LEIRIs.


[1] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core
[2] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#tasks
[3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2008Feb/0023
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