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agenda: HTML WG teleconference 2007-04-26T17:00:00Z

From: Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:04:33 -0500
To: public-html@w3.org
Message-Id: <1177520673.9528.439.camel@dirk>

I propose the following agenda, which is a snapshot of
http://www.w3.org/html/wg/il16 at v1.14.


   Note: In order to optimize the scheduled Working Group
   teleconference time, we'll have an [3]orientation discussion before
   we convene.

    1. Convene [4]HTML WG meeting of [5]2007-04-26T17:00:00Z
          + [6]Zakim teleconference bridge: [7]+1.617.761.6200,
            [8]+33.4.89.06.34.99 or [9]+44.117.370.6152 code: HTML
            (4865) ([10]res 2569)
               o supplementary IRC chat: [11]#html-wg on irc.w3.org
                 port 6665; [12]log to appear
          + chair: DanC
          + scribe: @@volunteer please
          + roll call (see , [13]bridge status, comments on the
            agenda[14]*.
            regrets: (see [15]registration survey results)
          + Note Well: the record(s) of this meeting, like all
            proceedings of this Working Group, are public.

      [4] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/
      [5] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=4&day=26&year=2007&hour=17&min=0&sec=0&p1=0
      [6] http://www.w3.org/1998/12/bridge/Zakim.html
      [7] tel:+1.617.761.6200
      [8] tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99
      [9] tel:+44.117.370.6152
     [10] http://www.w3.org/Guide/1998/08/teleconference-calendar.html#s_2569
     [11] irc://irc.w3.org:6665/html-wg
     [12] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/26-html-wg-irc
     [13] http://www.w3.org/1998/12/bridge/Zakim.html
     [15] http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/tel26Apr/results


    2. Design Principles and Requirements
       Objective: collect information about the role of design
       principles and requirements for this WG; discuss possibility of
       1st WD in June.
          + proposed design principle: Don't Break The Web, among
            others. [16]Design Principles updated from Maciej
            Stachowiak 12 April, with progress on [17]HTML Design
            Principles (Proposed) in the [18]ESW Wiki
          + candidate requirement: parsing to tree-shaped Dom see
            [19]21 Mar IRC discussion starting 18:19 (in what
            timezone?), including test case sketches in blog entries
            such as [20]Tag Soup: How UAs handle <x> <y> </x> </y> of
            2002-11-21
          + candidate requirement: market threshold:

     [16] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2007Apr/0588.html
     [17] http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/ProposedDesignPrinciples
     [18] http://esw.w3.org/topic/
     [19] http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/html-wg/20070321#l-419
     [20] http://ln.hixie.ch/?start=1037910467&count=1

     at one point the charter did say a total 10%, which was reviewed
     by the Webkit team, and everyone involved agreed was better.


    [21]Ian Hickson 15 Mar 2007 14:27:30 +0000

     [21] http://www.w3.org/mid/Pine.LNX.4.62.0703151425540.23123@dhalsim.dreamhost.com

            See also [22]webkit blog discussion. The text from that
            version of the charter is:

     [22] http://webkit.org/blog/?p=89

     The HTML Working Group's work will be considered a success if
     there are multiple independent complete and interoperable
     implementations of its deliverable that are widely used (with a
     total market share, measured by at least two widely recognized
     reporting organizations, of 10% or more of the Web browser
     market).
            Changing the charter at this point is expensive, but that
            requirement is perhaps worth adopting by WG decision.
            One idea from a chat with Chris W. is to survey the top 200
            web sites regularly.

    3. Forms baseline.
       Objective: clarify relationship of forms work w.r.t. HTML5
       proposal.

       [23]Barstow 9 March seeks confirmation that this WG will "take
       over" [24]Web Forms 2.0. Raggett 12 Mar: [25]Preparing to launch
       the Forms Task Force ...
       Also raised in IRC office hours:
[26]# [53] <mjs> 3) how should we participate in the joint forms tas
k force with the Forms Working Group?
    4. HTML spec baseline.
       Objective: finish discussion so that the proposal is clear and
       formally put the question.
       charter says HTML4; shall we skip ahead to HTML5 in one step?
       See [27]Proposal to Adopt HTML5 from Maciej Stachowiak 10 April,
       signed by:
          + L. David Baron, Mozilla Foundation
          + Lars Erik Bolstad, Opera Software ASA
          + Brendan Eich, Mozilla Foundation
          + Dave Hyatt, Apple Inc.
          + Håkon Wium Lie, Opera Software ASA
          + Maciej Stachowiak, Apple Inc.

     [23] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2007JanMar/0012.html
     [24] http://www.w3.org/TR/web-forms-2/
     [25] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2007JanMar/0017.html
     [26] http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/html-wg/20070321#l-571
     [53] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2007JanMar/0232.html
     [27] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2007Apr/0429.html


Pre-Teleconference Orientation Discussion

   start at T-45min or maybe T-30 min. Demo Zakim speaker queue,
   muting. Maybe RRSAgent.


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Dan Connolly, W3C http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/
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