- From: Glen Daniels <gdaniels@macromedia.com>
- Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 17:28:25 -0400
- To: "'xml-dist-app@w3.org'" <xml-dist-app@w3.org>
Context: at today's WG conference call, we discussed whether issue 100 [1] was resolved in our current working draft. I volunteered to look at the text and report to the group at large. After reading section 2.5 of the SOAP 1.2 specification [2] carefully, I posit that no position is taken by the current spec as to whether it is permissible to send a fault when the ultimate destination of a message receives a header block which a) is marked mustUnderstand="1", and b) is addressed to an actor which does not target the node at the ultimate destination. The processing model certainly does not require such a fault, and it almost precludes it. Bullet item #2 in section 2.5 says "process SOAP blocks targeted at the SOAP node...", implying that other blocks (such as the imagined mustUnderstand="1" block) should NOT be processed except inasmuch as they may be examined as a result of processing other blocks which *are* targeted at the node. So I believe you could interpret this as allowing the processor to, as part of processing the Body, for instance, perform the "check for mustUnderstands not directed at me" step and generate a fault if you find any. To sum up - I do not think that issue 100 is firmly resolved in the current spec, and since it is an interesting and somewhat murky case we should probably make our viewpoint on it a bit crisper. <personal opinion> I don't believe we can or should actually prohibit producing a fault based on any information the paricular application decides to examine. However, I think mandating a fault like this might be a bad idea, as it would enforce a more complex processing model for a standard SOAP engine (which would need to always know if it was the ultimate destination, and tweak the mustUnderstand processing if so). I think the core issue that proponents of the faulting model are concerned about is the fact that there are sometimes blocks which a client sends that are highly important, which simply should not make it to the endpoint without being processed. This seems to me to be a very important issue, but not necessarily one which we should change the core processing model to handle. I would propose that this is perhaps more in the realm of something like Noah's suggested "mustHappen" extension (described in [3]), and should perhaps be attacked as such. If viewed as important enough, I could see making this sort of thing a normative extension. </personal opinion> --Glen [1] http://www.w3.org/2000/xp/Group/xmlp-issues#x100 [2] http://www.w3.org/2000/xp/Group/1/06/01/xmlp-soap-02.html [3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2001May/0310.html
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