- From: Benjamin Grosof <bgrosof@MIT.EDU>
- Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 08:59:11 -0400
- To: www-ws@w3.org
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(sorry -- forgot to post this initially to www-ws@w3.org, but it's a technical issue, so I'm doing so with this msg. -- Benjamin) >Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 15:03:09 -0400 >To: swsl-committee@daml.org >From: Benjamin Grosof <bgrosof@MIT.EDU> >Subject: some thoughts on SWSL service profile concept and approach >Sender: owner-swsl-committee@wrath.daml.org >X-Spam-Score: 2.4 >X-Spam-Level: ** (2.4) >X-Spam-Flag: NO >X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.28 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) > >Hi folks, >Following up the action item I had: > >Here are some thoughts on the concept of a SWSL service profile, and what >our approach to representing a profile should be (inline'd below and also >attached as a file for convenience). The first part is a summary of some >suggestions -- please read that first. > >Then there's a less coherent but possibly fertile set of material: I've >appended some notes from the f2f that I took, mostly transcribing discussion. > >Benjamin > >% outline on modifying SWSI profiles from DAML-S's >% in light of rules and contracts >% by Benjamin Grosof >% created 4/11/03 >% modified 5/6/03 >% this version: 5/6/03 > >%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% >Comments by Benjamin Grosof on suggestions for SWSL Service Profiles >relative to DAML-S Service Profiles as a point of departure. > >A key background point is DAML-S design approach already says: >there may be many profiles, used for different purposes > > >Benjamin's suggestions: > >We should support partial-ness of a description in a general way, >including to reuse/overlap the profile info for/with the process model. >Then any particular profile becomes some partial description, e.g., >a subset of a more complete but still partial description which includes >an executable process model. > >Suggest we think about there being >(beyond the grounding) >a knowledge-based service description, >some subset of which is executable and thus constitutes a process model, >but which may include parts that are not executable, >and any coherent subset of which can be used as a profile. > >What kind of knowledge may a service description contain? >It should be at least: >- DL ontologies cf. OWL >- LP rules cf. RuleML >- process model in the above sense >What else is TBD (To Be Determined/designed)... > >A profile may include its own ontologies stuff, >e.g., as when define product names or levels or customer kinds. > >Wrt predefined properties of a service: >suggest Pricing be one of them. > >An important kind of profile is a partial or complete contract proposal. > >An important kind of profile is a service discovery/advertisement entry. > >%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% >APPENDICES: some additional notes follow -- material from >the f2f meeting on 4/11/03 > >%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% >% especially relevant notes from the SWSI f2f SWSL sessions: >(just cut and pasted from Benjamin's notes) > >3. cf. Benjamin's suggestion: add CONTRACTS and things like that to >the PROFILE -- needs crisping up -- but seems reasonable [Michael K] > >consider light workflow via rules [Benjamin's point] > >cf. Benjamin's issue with rules: >OVERLAP AND STRUCTURING of same info being used in both >the PROFILE and the process model > >Michael and Benjamin: propose as req: >to allow/enable: that could have RULES (e.g., partial profile) as a >VIEW on, or a partial spec of, the PROCESS MODEL, and as a full spec >for a simple process model > >Benjamin: >- not sure how critical it is to get profile out quickly as a draft >- post-conditions guaranteed is very close to contract descr, > > >Benjamin: >**implic's of a partially executable contract ruleset use case >at paradigm level -- for >possibly modifying the DAML-S paradigm of division between service profile >vs. service process model >- at least would want to be able to point from profile to rulebase, > and from process model to rulebase >- they overlap > >Benjamin: >exception handling can be viewed as part of a rule-based spec >at profile level, not just at process model level > >Benjamin: >contracts can be viewed as service descriptions > >Benjamin: >user/customer conceptual view of business processes / services today >is often cf. light workflow > >Benjamin: >light workflow also used in pub-sub, or info flow type applications >(news, workflow, info dissemination) > >Benjamin: >rule-b descr's/services as early low-hanging approach to >distinctively semantic WS; same rulebase descr useful for several SWS tasks >incl discovery, selection, negotiation, monitoring, exception handling > > >Dieter: can use rules for "evolving algebras" for state-transition oriented >process descriptions - i.e., represent the states and time explicitly, >can have sequences of actions > >Benjamin: yes for quite a bit, but rules lack some perspicuity for >representing some of that, compared to workflow languages > >Dieter: error recovery w/ compensation is tough >- Michael K: should do in WS level not SWS > >Karl: can view: a requirement for our SWS service description: is that >service descriptions are partial > >Benjamin: >also want executable for at least some simpler expressive cases > >Benjamin: as consider different tasks for SWS, the aspects of >overall service descr that help with each task may overlap properly, >e.g., rule-based service descr's for e-contracts, >thus may want to define even more aspects of service descriptions >than just "profile" vs. "process model" > > >Benjamin: for adoption by developers, it's critical that our service descr's >are part of the main spec that generates executable, otherwise dev'ers >won't invest the effort to gen the spec's and maintain them in the life cycle, >because they'll be viewed as extra > >Benjamin: let's think in terms of >- our mission is to provide a KNOWLEDGE-BASED service descriptions, >as extension and enrichment of usual service descriptions; >this is intrinsically plumbing in a direct sense; >- focus on who will AUTHOR the knowledge-based descriptions, >e.g., developers in the beginning, then later end users >- get more req's and attention/investment by pilot brag applications > being done > > >%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% >% overview slide from Benjamin's presentation in SWSL session of f2f: >% [NB: formatting got a bit messed up in pasting from powerpoint] > >Overview: {SW rules+ontologies} and the procedural aspect of SWS > >Quickly review: rule-based SWS cf. the 3/20 SWSL telecon presentation >and 4/9 DAML PI Mtg Services Breakout >Describing post-conditions and pre-conditions, esp. contingent behavior >Let's do more use cases and application scenarios >Situated logic programs (SLP) [the largest emphasis of this presentation] >very simple workflow, viewable as timeless and stateless >abstraction of event-condition-action rules and OPS5 production rules >supported in RuleML and (basically too in) Jess. >actions (invoke external procedures) triggered by inferring of conclusions >queries (invoke external procedures) during testing of rule antecedent c >onditions >Built-ins used in rules and ontologies, e.g., > arithmetic and comparison operators/functions >Exception handling in workflows and service agreements/contracts >Representing service post-conditions and state transitions, incl. contracts, >persistence defaults [-- next presentation could usefully have more on this] > >%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% >% some other thoughts and notes from 4/11/03, by Benjamin: > >in the process model: there are: > >precondns >input >output >effects > >and can all be CONDITIONAL! -->> think about how rules related > >%%% > >one critique point: > >quality vs. category vs. non-functional parameters >vs. functional parameters > >is not a good division > >%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > > >________________________________________________________________________________________________ >Prof. Benjamin Grosof >Web Technologies for E-Commerce, Business Policies, E-Contracting, Rules, >XML, Agents, Semantic Web Services >MIT Sloan School of Management, Information Technology group >http://ebusiness.mit.edu/bgrosof or http://www.mit.edu/~bgrosof > > ________________________________________________________________________________________________ Prof. Benjamin Grosof Web Technologies for E-Commerce, Business Policies, E-Contracting, Rules, XML, Agents, Semantic Web Services MIT Sloan School of Management, Information Technology group http://ebusiness.mit.edu/bgrosof or http://www.mit.edu/~bgrosof
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