- From: Jonathan Marsh <jmarsh@microsoft.com>
- Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:19:57 -0800
- To: <www-ws-desc@w3.org>
0. Dial in information (members only) [.1]:
See the public WG page [.2] for pointers to current documents and other
information, and the private page [.3] for administrative matters.
If you have additions to the agenda, please email them to the WG list
before the start of the telcon.
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2005Feb/0024.html
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/
[.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/admin
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Agenda
1. Assign scribe. Lucky minute taker for this week is one of:
Bijan Parsia, Sanjiva Weerawarana, Jacek Kopecky,
Prasad Yendluri, Kevin Liu, Youenn Fablet,
Glen Daniels, Roberto Chinnici, Allen Brookes, Adi Sakala
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2. Approval of minutes:
- Feb 10 [.1]
[.1]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Feb/att-0042/2005021
0-ws-desc-minutes.html
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3. Review of Action items [.1]. Editorial actions [.2].
? 2004-04-01: Marsh will get schema tf going.
? 2004-09-02: Bijan to create stylesheet to generate a
table of components and properties.
? 2004-09-16: Editors to move App C to RDF Mapping spec,
except the frag-id which will move
within media-type reg appendix.
? 2004-09-16: Editors to fix paragraph 6-9 of section
2.1.1 moved into 2.1.2
which talks about the syntax.
? 2004-10-14: Editors to add a statement like:
The Style property may constrain both
input and output, however a particular
style may constrain in only one
direction. In Section 2.4.1.1 of Part 1.
(subsumed by LC21 resolution?)
? 2004-11-09: DaveO to work on text for option
3 (redefining conformance in terms
of building the component model)
(LC5f)
? 2004-11-09: DaveO will recast the @compatibleWith
proposal using an extension namespace.
(LC54)
? 2004-11-10: Sanjiva to write the rationale for
rejecting LC75a
? 2004-11-10: Glen will post an e-mail describing
the compromise proposal on formal objections.
? 2004-11-10: Editor remove ambiguity if it exists
? 2004-11-10: Sanjiva will write up this proposal
and email it to the list as a response
to the objection.
? 2004-11-11: Anish to propose additions to the
test suite for the purpose of
interoperability testing.
? 2004-11-11: Editors of part 2 and 3 to add text
about WSDLMEP and SOAP mep mapping that
points to section 2.3 of part 3 (LC48b)
? 2004-11-18: Mini-task force to propose one or two
proposals for the group for LC5f.
? 2004-12-03: Glen and Asir to help craft the specfic text
for the editors.
? 2004-12-03: Glen to send example on feature stuff for primer
? 2004-12-16: Part 3 Editors to update the HTTP binding with
one of the above versions of text
? 2005-01-06: MTD Editors to add note saying content-type
is not sufficient, information to be
provided via other mechanism, for
example xsi:type"
? 2005-01-06: MTD editors implement proposal 2 for issue
260.
? 2005-01-06: Umit? to respond to Larry, "not dynamic,
other solutions equally bad, not
recommendation track, if problems
happy to consider those"
? 2005-01-13: Editors of media type doc to
implement issue 261 resolution
? 2005-01-13: Editors of media type doc to
implement issue 262 resolution
? 2005-01-13: Editors of media type doc to
implement 262 and 273
? 2005-01-13: Editors of media type doc to
incorporate the text at 2004Dec/0022.html
? 2005-01-13: Editors of media type doc to
resolve 275 editorially
? 2005-01-13: Umit to reply to issuer 270
? 2005-01-13: Umit to respond to Ian Hickson
about issue 271
? 2005-01-19: Part 1 Editors to call out the difference
between WSDL 1.1 and 2.0 in respect to
single interface per service, and
indicate alternatives
? 2005-01-19: Part 1 Editors to rewrite ONMR as Best practice.
DONE [.4] 2005-01-19: Hugo to write a proposal for adding
an optional Action attribute in line
with WS Addressing (LC84b)
? 2005-01-19: Arthur and Asir to look for more edge cases
ref LC20 and LC27.
? 2005-01-19: Part 1 Editors to add the intersection
rule for f&p composition.
? 2005-01-20: Asir to think about mU and possibly
propose some clarification text
? 2005-01-20: Arthur to come up with primer text
to show fault reuse and fault code.
DONE 2005-02-03: Marsh make Jan 0008 issue LC103 and close it.
? 2005-02-03: Members who have recently raised issues
should check that these were reflected in
the issues list.
? 2005-02-03: Marsh to find schemaLocation supporting
material for Arthur.
DONE 2005-02-03: Marsh to add RDF mapping to agenda, try
to recruit Jacek.
? 2005-02-03: Asir to work with primer eds on SOAP 1.1
example.
? 2005-02-03: Part 1 editors to incorporate text from
Jan/0026 and Feb/0006.
DONE [.3] 2005-02-10: Arthur to add non-normative ref to WS-Addr
spec
? 2005-02-10: Asir to say which component names need discussion
? 2005-02-10: DBooth to mail Arthur change to wording on media
type registration, Arthur to incorporate.
? 2005-02-10: JMarsh to ask Henry to respond about media type
issues with examples
? 2005-02-10: Marsh to consider a cutoff for LC issues.
DONE 2005-02-10: Marsh to move 106 up on the agenda.
DONE 2005-02-10: Marsh to schedule discussion of LC70 along
with LC5f.
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/#actions
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/actions.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2005Feb/0022.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Feb/0035.html
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4. Administrivia
a. Mar 3,4 Boston [.1]
b. Upcoming FTF dates:
- mid/late April, West Coast?
- May 30 Berlin?
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TP2005/
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5. RDF Mapping
- Check status and expected progress.
- What would we like a First Public WG to look like?
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6. Primer [.1]
- DBooth and Kevin solicit help for Advanced Topics section [.2]
- Volunteers for the following sections:
+ Section 7.2 Features and Properties (Glen)
+ Section 7.3 Import mechanism and authoring style (Arthur)
+ Section 7.4 Multiple Logical WSDL Documents Describing the
Same Service (David)
+ Section 7.5 Versioning and Service Equivalency (Paul)
+ Section 7.6 MTOM Support (Marsh)
+ Section 7.8 Operation Style and RPC (Umit)
+ Section 7.11 Service References (Arthur)
+ Section 7.12 XML Schema Examples (Paul)
+ Section 7.13 Multiple In-Line Schemas (Arthur)
+ Section 7.14 The schemaLocation Attribute (Arthur)
- Sections marked as "at risk" if no volunteer can be found:
+ Section 7.7 Security Considerations
+ Section 7.15 Mapping to RDF and Semantic Web
[.1]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/wsdl20/wsdl20-primer.ht
ml
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Feb/0004.html
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7. Media Type Description issues [.1]
a. Issue 272 Architectural issues [.2]
- Awaiting more examples from Henry.
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#detailList
[.2]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-media-types/2004Nov/0011.h
tml
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8. Last Call Issues [.1]. Comments list [.2]
- LC107: Consistency of WSDL Component property names [.3]
- LC108: Part 3, SOAP Binding - Editorial Issues [.4]
- LC109: Multiple input and output elements for an operation [.5]
- LC110: WSDL 2.0 Part3, Sec. 3.4 [.6]
- LC111: HTTP Error code for faults (part3, sec 3.7) [.7]
- Propose referring LC108, LC109 to editors as editorial.
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-desc-comments/
[.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC107
[.4] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC108
[.5] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC109
[.6] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC110
[.7] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC111
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9. Media Type Registration [.1]
- Editorial work needed [.2]
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Feb/0015.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Feb/0016.html
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10. Component model changes
- LC104: Proposed Changes to the Interface Component, Features
and Properties [.1]
- Plan to hold vote on Arthur's proposal vs. status quo.
- LC105: Proposal for Simplifications to the Component Model [.2]
- Arthur's modification to the LC105 proposal [.3]
- Need to decide whether to allow "property" extensions at the
top level.
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0060.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0056.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0066.html
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11. Issue LC106: Revisit LC21 resolution [.1]
- LC21: Multipart Style and {direction}=out [.2]
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC106
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC21
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12. Issue LC70: Pluggability of Schema Languages in WSDL [.1]
- Proposal A: "mustUnderstand" the schema language.
- Proposal B: Drop DTD/Relax bindings, tighten the coupling with
XML Schema.
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC70
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13. Issue LC5f: QA Review on WSDL 2.0 Part 1, intro and conformance
issues (f) [.1]
- Roberto's proposal [.2]
- No final resolution from FTF, AIs to DBooth/Roberto and DaveO
to write up competing proposals
- DBooth/Roberto's proposal [.3]
- Mini-TF to work on a single proposal (stalled out). Want to see
whether we're still waiting for an alternative proposal before
deciding the issue.
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC5f
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Oct/0027.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0099.html
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14. Issue 76d: First class support for headers [.1]
- DaveO's v1.2 Headers proposal from Jan FTF. [.2]
- Asir's proposal for a first-class header support, elements [.3]
- Asir's proposal for a first-class header support, types [.4]
- Asir's proposal for SOAP-specific header support [.5]
- subissue a: mandatory mustUnderstand [.6]
- subissue b: MUST if possible [.6] (Editorial?)
- subissue c: Use Schema for versioning, not SOAP headers [.6]
- subissue d: Wrapper type can't be validated[.6]
- subissue e: mismatched feature/modules [.7]
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC76d
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0040.html
[.3]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Feb/att-0019/first-c
lass-headers-A.html
[.4]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Feb/att-0019/first-c
lass-headers-B.html
[.5]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/att-0094/soap-he
ader-blocks.html
[.6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Feb/0009.html
[.7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Feb/0018.html
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15. Issue LC84b: [.1]
- Hugo's draft proposal [.2]
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC84b
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Feb/0035.html
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16. Issue LC74: Idle question [.1]
- Can WSDL 2.0 import WSDL 1.0?
- Note that the resolution to LC5e [.2] defines WSDL Document as
WSDL 2.0 namespace.
- Options:
a) No. Spec (with LC5e resolution) is clear enough.
b) No. Specifically note that i*ing 1.1 docs is not supported.
c) Yes. Change spec to define that this is possible, though
how to turn a WSDL 1.1 doc into WSDL 2.0 components is not
defined.
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC74
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC5e
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17. Issue LC54: WSDL Last Call issue
- Awaiting DaveO's further action to cast @compatibleWith as an
extension
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC54
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18. Issue LC75w: WSDL 2.0 LC Comments (w) [.1]
- Relax requirement that include href must be dereferencable.
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC75w
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19. Other issues if time allows (ha!)
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