- From: Jonathan Marsh <jmarsh@microsoft.com>
- Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 14:58:04 -0800
- To: <www-ws-desc@w3.org>
0. Dial in information (members only) [.1]:
See the public WG page [.2] for pointers to current documents and other
information, and the private page [.3] for administrative matters.
If you have additions to the agenda, please email them to the WG list
before the start of the telcon.
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2005Feb/0002.html
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/
[.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/admin
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Agenda
1. Assign scribe. Lucky minute taker for this week is one of:
Amy Lewis, Bijan Parsia, Sanjiva Weerawarana, Jacek Kopecky,
Prasad Yendluri, David Booth, Kevin Liu, Youenn Fablet,
Glen Daniels, Roberto Chinnici, Allen Brookes
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2. Approval of minutes:
- Jan 27 [.1]
- FTF minutes [.2, .3] and summary [.4]
I can't find the mythical LC103 anywhere. Will leave that number
intentionally blank in the issues list.
[.1]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/att-0092/2005012
7-ws-desc-minutes.html
[.2]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/att-0091/2005012
0-ws-desc-minutes.html
[.3]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/att-0091/2005012
0-ws-desc-minutes.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0091.html
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3. Review of Action items [.1]. Editorial actions [.2].
? 2004-04-01: Marsh will get schema tf going.
? 2004-09-02: Bijan to create stylesheet to generate a
table of components and properties.
? 2004-09-16: Editors to move App C to RDF Mapping spec,
except the frag-id which will move
within media-type reg appendix.
? 2004-09-16: Editors to fix paragraph 6-9 of section
2.1.1 moved into 2.1.2
which talks about the syntax.
? 2004-10-14: Editors to add a statement like:
The Style property may constrain both
input and output, however a particular
style may constrain in only one
direction. In Section 2.4.1.1 of Part 1.
(subsumed by LC21 resolution?)
DONE [.5] 2004-11-09: DBooth and Roberto to describe
option 2 (remove definition of processor
conformance, write up clear guidelines
to developers) (LC5f)
? 2004-11-09: DaveO to work on text for option
3 (redefining conformance in terms
of building the component model)
(LC5f)
? 2004-11-09: DaveO will recast the @compatibleWith
proposal using an extension namespace.
(LC54)
? 2004-11-10: Sanjiva to write the rationale for
rejecting LC75a
? 2004-11-10: Glen will post an e-mail describing
the compromise proposal on formal objections.
? 2004-11-10: Editor remove ambiguity if it exists
? 2004-11-10: Sanjiva will write up this proposal
and email it to the list as a response
to the objection.
? 2004-11-11: Anish to propose additions to the
test suite for the purpose of
interoperability testing.
? 2004-11-11: Editors of part 2 and 3 to add text
about WSDLMEP and SOAP mep mapping that
points to section 2.3 of part 3 (LC48b)
DONE [.6] 2004-11-18: DBooth to propose text to clarify that
a service must implement everything in
its description.
? 2004-11-18: Mini-task force to propose one or two
proposals for the group for LC5f.
DONE [.10] 2004-12-02: DBooth to draft note clarifying that
(a) optional extension can change the
semantics; and (b) that if semantics are
going to change at runtime, it should be
indicated in the WSDL
? 2004-12-03: Glen and Asir to help craft the specfic text
for the editors.
? 2004-12-03: Glen to send example on feature stuff for primer
DONE [.8] 2004-12-03: Hugo or JMarsh to write up schema group remarks
? 2004-12-16: Part 3 Editors to update the HTTP binding with
one of the above versions of text
? 2005-01-06: MTD Editors to add note saying content-type
is not sufficient, information to be
provided via other mechanism, for
example xsi:type"
? 2005-01-06: MTD editors implement proposal 2 for issue
260.
? 2005-01-06: Umit? to respond to Larry, "not dynamic,
other solutions equally bad, not
recommendation track, if problems
happy to consider those"
DONE [.6] 2005-01-13: DBooth to rework his text with
comments from A. Manes
/2004Dec/0024.html without the *stars*
? 2005-01-13: Editors of media type doc to
implement issue 261 resolution
? 2005-01-13: Editors of media type doc to
implement issue 262 resolution
? 2005-01-13: Editors of media type doc to
implement 262 and 273
? 2005-01-13: Editors of media type doc to
incorporate the text at 2004Dec/0022.html
? 2005-01-13: Editors of media type doc to
resolve 275 editorially
DONE [.9] 2005-01-13: Jon to reopen LC21
? 2005-01-13: Umit to reply to issuer 270
? 2005-01-13: Umit to respond to Ian Hickson
about issue 271
DONE [.7] 2005-01-19: dbooth and KevinL to scope remaining
primer work and identify who needs to
supply what advanced topic sections
? 2005-01-19: Part 1 Editors to call out the difference
between WSDL 1.1 and 2.0 in respect to
single interface per service, and
indicate alternatives
? 2005-01-19: Part 1 Editors to rewrite ONMR as Best practice.
? 2005-01-19: Hugo to write a proposal for adding
an optional Action attribute in line
with WS Addressing (LC84b)
? 2005-01-19: Arthur and Asir to look for more edge cases
ref LC20 and LC27.
? 2005-01-19: Part 1 Editors to add the intersection
rule for f&p composition.
DONE [.4] 2005-01-20: DaveO to further refine his header
proposal based on the input he has
received during the f2f
? 2005-01-20: Asir to think about mU and possibly
propose some clarification text
? 2005-01-20: Arthur to come up with primer text
to show fault reuse and fault code.
DONE 2005-01-27: Marsh to follow up with Gudge on
wsdl:include transitive issue
DONE 2005-01-27: Marsh to put primer on agenda next week.
DONE [.3] 2005-01-27: Marsh to send a note to WS-Chor that
we have no comments.
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/#actions
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/actions.html
[.3]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-chor-comments/2005Jan/0028
.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0040.html
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0099.html
[.6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0026.html
[.7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Feb/0004.html
[.8] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2005Jan/0029.html
[.9] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC106
[.10] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Feb/0006.html
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4. Administrivia
a. Good Standing:
- Have sent mails to some member's AC reps
b. Mar 3,4 Boston [.1]
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TP2005/
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5. Primer [.1]
- DBooth and Kevin solicit help for Advanced Topics section [.2]
[.1]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/wsdl20/wsdl20-primer.ht
ml
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Feb/0004.html
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6. Media Type Description issues [.1]
a. Issue 272 Architectural issues [.2]
- Awaiting more examples from Henry.
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#detailList
[.2]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-media-types/2004Nov/0011.h
tml
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7. Last Call Issues [.1]. Comments list [.2]
- ServiceGroup revival [.2]. Propose to not reopen this issue.
- LC102: What is the SOAP MEP for in-only? [.3]
- LC104: Proposed Changes to the Interface Component, Features
and Properties [.4]
- LC105: Proposal for Simplifications to the Component Model [.5]
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0088.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0027.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0060.html
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0056.html
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8. Motion to approve the following text:
- Meaning of WSDL document [.1]
- Optional extensions [.2]
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0026.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Feb/0006.html
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9. Include/Import issues
- Issue LC75t: WSDL 2.0 LC Comments (t) [.1]
- Issue LC92: wsdl:include semantics is different from
xs:include [.2]
- Asir's proposal [.3]
- From last week: WG thought this was intentional but couldn't
recall why.
- Marsh reports that Gudge reports it looks like a copy/paste
error, suggests accepting the proposal.
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC75t
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC92
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0059.html
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10. Issue LC60 follow-up [.1]
- XML Schema validator results [.2]
- Henry's response [.3]
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC60
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0068.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0095.html
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11. Issue LC5f: QA Review on WSDL 2.0 Part 1, intro and conformance
issues (f) [.1]
- Roberto's proposal [.2]
- No final resolution from FTF, AIs to DBooth/Roberto and DaveO
to write up competing proposals
- DBooth/Roberto's proposal [.3]
- Mini-TF to work on a single proposal (stalled out). Want to see
whether we're still waiting for an alternative proposal before
deciding the issue.
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC5f
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Oct/0027.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0099.html
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12. Issue 76d: First class support for headers [.1]
- DaveO's v1.2 Headers proposal from Jan FTF. [.2]
- Asir's proposal for a first-class header support [.3]
- Asir's proposal for SOAP-specific header support [.4]
- Do we need another proposal, to resurrect binding-level
SOAP headers?
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC76d
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0040.html
[.3]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/att-0044/first-c
lass-headers.html
[.4]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/att-0094/soap-he
ader-blocks.html
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13. Component model changes
- LC104: Proposed Changes to the Interface Component, Features
and Properties [.1]
- See if this proposal is non-contentious.
- LC105: Proposal for Simplifications to the Component Model [.2]
- Arthur's modification to the LC105 proposal [.3]
- Allow Arthur some time to introduce the proposal, possibly
taking an AI to send an updated proposal.
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0060.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0056.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0066.html
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14. Issue LC74: Idle question [.1]
- Can WSDL 2.0 import WSDL 1.0?
- Note that the resolution to LC5e [.2] defines WSDL Document as
WSDL 2.0 namespace.
- Options:
a) No. Spec (with LC5e resolution) is clear enough.
b) No. Specifically note that i*ing 1.1 docs is not supported.
c) Yes. Change spec to define that this is possible, though
how to turn a WSDL 1.1 doc into WSDL 2.0 components is not
defined.
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC74
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC5e
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15. Issue LC54: WSDL Last Call issue
- Awaiting DaveO's further action to cast @compatibleWith as an
extension
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC54
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16. Issue LC75w: WSDL 2.0 LC Comments (w) [.1]
- Relax requirement that include href must be dereferencable.
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC75w
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17. Other issues if time allows (ha!)
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