- From: Jonathan Marsh <jmarsh@microsoft.com>
- Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 14:58:04 -0800
- To: <www-ws-desc@w3.org>
0. Dial in information (members only) [.1]: See the public WG page [.2] for pointers to current documents and other information, and the private page [.3] for administrative matters. If you have additions to the agenda, please email them to the WG list before the start of the telcon. [.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2005Feb/0002.html [.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/ [.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/admin -------------------------------------------------------------------- Agenda 1. Assign scribe. Lucky minute taker for this week is one of: Amy Lewis, Bijan Parsia, Sanjiva Weerawarana, Jacek Kopecky, Prasad Yendluri, David Booth, Kevin Liu, Youenn Fablet, Glen Daniels, Roberto Chinnici, Allen Brookes -------------------------------------------------------------------- 2. Approval of minutes: - Jan 27 [.1] - FTF minutes [.2, .3] and summary [.4] I can't find the mythical LC103 anywhere. Will leave that number intentionally blank in the issues list. [.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/att-0092/2005012 7-ws-desc-minutes.html [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/att-0091/2005012 0-ws-desc-minutes.html [.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/att-0091/2005012 0-ws-desc-minutes.html [.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0091.html -------------------------------------------------------------------- 3. Review of Action items [.1]. Editorial actions [.2]. ? 2004-04-01: Marsh will get schema tf going. ? 2004-09-02: Bijan to create stylesheet to generate a table of components and properties. ? 2004-09-16: Editors to move App C to RDF Mapping spec, except the frag-id which will move within media-type reg appendix. ? 2004-09-16: Editors to fix paragraph 6-9 of section 2.1.1 moved into 2.1.2 which talks about the syntax. ? 2004-10-14: Editors to add a statement like: The Style property may constrain both input and output, however a particular style may constrain in only one direction. In Section 2.4.1.1 of Part 1. (subsumed by LC21 resolution?) DONE [.5] 2004-11-09: DBooth and Roberto to describe option 2 (remove definition of processor conformance, write up clear guidelines to developers) (LC5f) ? 2004-11-09: DaveO to work on text for option 3 (redefining conformance in terms of building the component model) (LC5f) ? 2004-11-09: DaveO will recast the @compatibleWith proposal using an extension namespace. (LC54) ? 2004-11-10: Sanjiva to write the rationale for rejecting LC75a ? 2004-11-10: Glen will post an e-mail describing the compromise proposal on formal objections. ? 2004-11-10: Editor remove ambiguity if it exists ? 2004-11-10: Sanjiva will write up this proposal and email it to the list as a response to the objection. ? 2004-11-11: Anish to propose additions to the test suite for the purpose of interoperability testing. ? 2004-11-11: Editors of part 2 and 3 to add text about WSDLMEP and SOAP mep mapping that points to section 2.3 of part 3 (LC48b) DONE [.6] 2004-11-18: DBooth to propose text to clarify that a service must implement everything in its description. ? 2004-11-18: Mini-task force to propose one or two proposals for the group for LC5f. DONE [.10] 2004-12-02: DBooth to draft note clarifying that (a) optional extension can change the semantics; and (b) that if semantics are going to change at runtime, it should be indicated in the WSDL ? 2004-12-03: Glen and Asir to help craft the specfic text for the editors. ? 2004-12-03: Glen to send example on feature stuff for primer DONE [.8] 2004-12-03: Hugo or JMarsh to write up schema group remarks ? 2004-12-16: Part 3 Editors to update the HTTP binding with one of the above versions of text ? 2005-01-06: MTD Editors to add note saying content-type is not sufficient, information to be provided via other mechanism, for example xsi:type" ? 2005-01-06: MTD editors implement proposal 2 for issue 260. ? 2005-01-06: Umit? to respond to Larry, "not dynamic, other solutions equally bad, not recommendation track, if problems happy to consider those" DONE [.6] 2005-01-13: DBooth to rework his text with comments from A. Manes /2004Dec/0024.html without the *stars* ? 2005-01-13: Editors of media type doc to implement issue 261 resolution ? 2005-01-13: Editors of media type doc to implement issue 262 resolution ? 2005-01-13: Editors of media type doc to implement 262 and 273 ? 2005-01-13: Editors of media type doc to incorporate the text at 2004Dec/0022.html ? 2005-01-13: Editors of media type doc to resolve 275 editorially DONE [.9] 2005-01-13: Jon to reopen LC21 ? 2005-01-13: Umit to reply to issuer 270 ? 2005-01-13: Umit to respond to Ian Hickson about issue 271 DONE [.7] 2005-01-19: dbooth and KevinL to scope remaining primer work and identify who needs to supply what advanced topic sections ? 2005-01-19: Part 1 Editors to call out the difference between WSDL 1.1 and 2.0 in respect to single interface per service, and indicate alternatives ? 2005-01-19: Part 1 Editors to rewrite ONMR as Best practice. ? 2005-01-19: Hugo to write a proposal for adding an optional Action attribute in line with WS Addressing (LC84b) ? 2005-01-19: Arthur and Asir to look for more edge cases ref LC20 and LC27. ? 2005-01-19: Part 1 Editors to add the intersection rule for f&p composition. DONE [.4] 2005-01-20: DaveO to further refine his header proposal based on the input he has received during the f2f ? 2005-01-20: Asir to think about mU and possibly propose some clarification text ? 2005-01-20: Arthur to come up with primer text to show fault reuse and fault code. DONE 2005-01-27: Marsh to follow up with Gudge on wsdl:include transitive issue DONE 2005-01-27: Marsh to put primer on agenda next week. DONE [.3] 2005-01-27: Marsh to send a note to WS-Chor that we have no comments. [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/#actions [.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/actions.html [.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-chor-comments/2005Jan/0028 .html [.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0040.html [.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0099.html [.6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0026.html [.7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Feb/0004.html [.8] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2005Jan/0029.html [.9] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC106 [.10] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Feb/0006.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- 4. Administrivia a. Good Standing: - Have sent mails to some member's AC reps b. Mar 3,4 Boston [.1] [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TP2005/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ 5. Primer [.1] - DBooth and Kevin solicit help for Advanced Topics section [.2] [.1] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/wsdl20/wsdl20-primer.ht ml [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Feb/0004.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ 6. Media Type Description issues [.1] a. Issue 272 Architectural issues [.2] - Awaiting more examples from Henry. [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#detailList [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-media-types/2004Nov/0011.h tml ------------------------------------------------------------------ 7. Last Call Issues [.1]. Comments list [.2] - ServiceGroup revival [.2]. Propose to not reopen this issue. - LC102: What is the SOAP MEP for in-only? [.3] - LC104: Proposed Changes to the Interface Component, Features and Properties [.4] - LC105: Proposal for Simplifications to the Component Model [.5] [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/ [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0088.html [.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0027.html [.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0060.html [.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0056.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ 8. Motion to approve the following text: - Meaning of WSDL document [.1] - Optional extensions [.2] [.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0026.html [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Feb/0006.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ 9. Include/Import issues - Issue LC75t: WSDL 2.0 LC Comments (t) [.1] - Issue LC92: wsdl:include semantics is different from xs:include [.2] - Asir's proposal [.3] - From last week: WG thought this was intentional but couldn't recall why. - Marsh reports that Gudge reports it looks like a copy/paste error, suggests accepting the proposal. [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC75t [.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC92 [.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0059.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ 10. Issue LC60 follow-up [.1] - XML Schema validator results [.2] - Henry's response [.3] [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC60 [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0068.html [.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0095.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ 11. Issue LC5f: QA Review on WSDL 2.0 Part 1, intro and conformance issues (f) [.1] - Roberto's proposal [.2] - No final resolution from FTF, AIs to DBooth/Roberto and DaveO to write up competing proposals - DBooth/Roberto's proposal [.3] - Mini-TF to work on a single proposal (stalled out). Want to see whether we're still waiting for an alternative proposal before deciding the issue. [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC5f [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Oct/0027.html [.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0099.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ 12. Issue 76d: First class support for headers [.1] - DaveO's v1.2 Headers proposal from Jan FTF. [.2] - Asir's proposal for a first-class header support [.3] - Asir's proposal for SOAP-specific header support [.4] - Do we need another proposal, to resurrect binding-level SOAP headers? [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC76d [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0040.html [.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/att-0044/first-c lass-headers.html [.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/att-0094/soap-he ader-blocks.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ 13. Component model changes - LC104: Proposed Changes to the Interface Component, Features and Properties [.1] - See if this proposal is non-contentious. - LC105: Proposal for Simplifications to the Component Model [.2] - Arthur's modification to the LC105 proposal [.3] - Allow Arthur some time to introduce the proposal, possibly taking an AI to send an updated proposal. [.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0060.html [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0056.html [.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0066.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ 14. Issue LC74: Idle question [.1] - Can WSDL 2.0 import WSDL 1.0? - Note that the resolution to LC5e [.2] defines WSDL Document as WSDL 2.0 namespace. - Options: a) No. Spec (with LC5e resolution) is clear enough. b) No. Specifically note that i*ing 1.1 docs is not supported. c) Yes. Change spec to define that this is possible, though how to turn a WSDL 1.1 doc into WSDL 2.0 components is not defined. [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC74 [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC5e ------------------------------------------------------------------ 15. Issue LC54: WSDL Last Call issue - Awaiting DaveO's further action to cast @compatibleWith as an extension [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC54 ------------------------------------------------------------------ 16. Issue LC75w: WSDL 2.0 LC Comments (w) [.1] - Relax requirement that include href must be dereferencable. [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC75w ------------------------------------------------------------------ 17. Other issues if time allows (ha!)
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